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Grumulkin

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Several years ago I was going to buy a new car; about $60,000 worth. I called up a dealership and found they had one I was interested in. I drove to the dealership and noticed their no concealed carry sign on the door. I called them them from my car from outside the dealership, told them I wasn't going to be shopping with them, told them why and left never to return.

There are times you don't have much choice regarding who you buy from but when you do, make your money vote.
 
When other reasonable not posted alternatives / options are available: more than one restaurant, car dealer, grocery ...
The "concealed is concealed" perspective rather than not support them on principle perspective is commonly posted.
convenience or cost savings > principle ... amiright
Similar to continue to buy remaining ammo at WMart after they virtue signal and remove all handgun ammo.
In before they only put up the sign because of insurance.
 
Thats one persons contribution, but how do we expand that to amplify the voices of 2A supporters? Remember Activism asks for more than I acted by myself.

In TN the state 2A oganization has a forum where members post pics of the posted businesses, their addresses, and contact information. Members are asked to include their immediate action notifying the business that the individual will be giving their business to a competitor AND will be sharing the information on social media and a state forum for the purpose. This organized effort has resulted in changed postings a few times, but not all. At least the operator is informed and given the opportunity to reasses the posting. If they do change the posting the members post that as well.
 
I am sure that makes you feel good, but you didn't vote with your money. You voted without your money. Unrealized gains don't mean that much to a business.

Now go buy the $60K car at another dealership and TELL THEM you purchased there BECAUSE they allowed you to carry concealed. Realized gains DO mean much more to a business. Now write a letter to the manufacturer of the vehicle and let them know exactly why you purchased from the business that you did.

Maybe if more folks actually took the time to reward businesses for their behavior and letting them know exactly why, then we would be spending less time trying to punish businesses for behavior we don't like.
 
Double Naught Spy said:
Now go buy the $60K car at another dealership and TELL THEM you purchased there BECAUSE they allowed you to carry concealed. Realized gains DO mean much more to a business. Now write a letter to the manufacturer of the vehicle and let them know exactly why you purchased from the business that you did.

Maybe if more folks actually took the time to reward businesses for their behavior and letting them know exactly why, then we would be spending less time trying to punish businesses for behavior we don't like.
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Actually I DID tell the dealership at which I bought my loaded Suburban why they got the business.
 
hso said:
In TN the state 2A oganization has a forum where members post pics of the posted businesses, their addresses, and contact information. Members are asked to include their immediate action notifying the business that the individual will be giving their business to a competitor AND will be sharing the information on social media and a state forum for the purpose. This organized effort has resulted in changed postings a few times, but not all. At least the operator is informed and given the opportunity to reasses the posting. If they do change the posting the members post that as well.
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I've seen several attempts to make something like this on a larger scale, but so far haven't seen any that have worked well beyond a fairly local context.
 
nothing like an op-ed piece in your local paper about helping the economy recover by spending your money to help local business.... and then slide in a slight mention of the ccw restriction at -name them- which prompted you to buy at -name them-.
 
23tony said:
haven't seen any that have worked well beyond a fairly local context
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It is most effective on the local level or state level. Nationally, you'd need to divide by state to make it practical.

A couple of years ago some group went through and convinced several restaurants and businesses to post against carry. We started seeing posts about this in the state gun group and organized a list and then a whole forum very quickly to identify these businesses and how members approached them about the postings.

I walked in with my laptop and showed the son of my favorite place the listing I had posted and the responses about their new "gun buster" sticker on their front door. I asked if the had seen any change in business the first week the gunbuster had been up and he said no. I asked about "now, 2 weeks later"? He said they'd seen a little drop off. I pointed out that it didn't gain them any business, but it seemed to be driving customers like me away from them. I pointed out since they didn't want my business that I'd taken it to a competitor who didn't buy into the gunbuster pitch. It didn't improve their business, it was eroding their income, their competitor was making money off of it. I told him I'd be back when the sticker disappeared and the post would stay up on the website until the sticker was gone and I was welcome again. The sticker was gone the next day and I changed the post to reflect we'd discussed things and they had quickly removed the posting. Then I went in and thanked them and spent $100.

While anyone's individual action might or might not convince a retailer to rethink their restrictions onsite where "their house, their rules" might drive business to the competition, demonstrating to them that you're part of a larger movement and that you're making sure others know the situation so they too can take their business elsewhere CAN have more beneficial results than expected as one voice. Be polite, be respectful, be prepared, and be brief, but help them see that they've been mislead.
 
hso said:
While anyone's individual action might or might not convince a retailer to rethink their restrictions onsite where "their house, their rules" might drive business to the competition, demonstrating to them that you're part of a larger movement and that you're making sure others know the situation so they too can take their business elsewhere CAN have more beneficial results than expected as one voice.
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Right on. :thumbup:
And there's multiple ways of letting them know that you're not just one voice. Just "voting with your feet" doesn't accomplish much along those lines.
 
JERRY said:
nothing like an op-ed piece in your local paper about helping the economy recover by spending your money to help local business.... and then slide in a slight mention of the ccw restriction at -name them- which prompted you to buy at -name them-.
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But how likely is the local paper to print such a letter? Or would they redact it before printing to eliminate the parts you suggest?
 
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