FFGColorado is the only one to mention the current LCP (not the LCP II) is the second generation of the LCP and has a much better trigger and slightly better sights. The hammer is pre-cocked to a greater degree than the first version, lightening and shortening the trigger pull, but nowhere near as light and short as the LCP II. I prefer the intermediate version myself, what I call the LCP G2.
LCP vs LCP II
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Armybrat
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This is correct. I had both the early & current versions of the LCP, but no LCP II.
Still carry my older (2008) pistol - a totally reliable but snappy shooter - and gifted the newer one to my granddaughter for Christmas.
I bought an original LCP when it first came out. I shot it but not a lot. When the Glock 42 came out, I bought one and it became my everyday gun. I gave the LCP to my daughter. She left it in the glove compartment and someone broke into the car and stole it. She reported it to the police department. Couple of years later the police arrested someone who had it on them. It stayed in evidence for over a year. When we got it back, it had significant rust issues. I have a Duracoat kit that I've had several years and never used. I plan on doing the whole gun in Coyote Tan. One thing I noticed is that the frame did not have the polymer frame pins. It had some kind of allen head pin all the way through the frame with an allen screw in the other side. I have ordered new frame pins and other metal parts. The barrel also had some rusting. Maybe next week I'll work on the Duracoating. I've heard others say they are prone to rusting. Between the 2 models, I would choose the II over the original. If the G42 had been available at the time I bought the LCP, I never would have bought it.
1KPerDay
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Original LCP is a better defensive pistol trigger IMO. It’s also a little lighter and slimmer.
MrChicken
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I bought a first gen LCP used. My first impressions were the same as most, bad trigger, terrible sights. It looked brand new.
I figured learning a bad trigger was something I should do and I that I I'm pretty good at point shooting.
First shots out of it and I knew why the previous owner sold it. Recoil was stiff and the trigger bites your finger.
I didn't do anything about the trigger but I did get a stiffer recoil spring and Hogue slip on grip to tame the recoil.
After a few hundred dry fires the trigger got better, smoother and bit lighter, and I learned to handle a bad trigger much better.
It's been a number of years and that LCP has had hundreds of rounds put through it and thousands of dry fires. I shoot it pretty well, sad to say that I shoot it as well or better than my Hellcat.
I keep thinking about replacing it with a LCPII but I don't know that it would be worth it at this point. But a LCPII in .22 LR is definitely on my radar as a fun gun.
I figured learning a bad trigger was something I should do and I that I I'm pretty good at point shooting.
First shots out of it and I knew why the previous owner sold it. Recoil was stiff and the trigger bites your finger.
I didn't do anything about the trigger but I did get a stiffer recoil spring and Hogue slip on grip to tame the recoil.
After a few hundred dry fires the trigger got better, smoother and bit lighter, and I learned to handle a bad trigger much better.
It's been a number of years and that LCP has had hundreds of rounds put through it and thousands of dry fires. I shoot it pretty well, sad to say that I shoot it as well or better than my Hellcat.
I keep thinking about replacing it with a LCPII but I don't know that it would be worth it at this point. But a LCPII in .22 LR is definitely on my radar as a fun gun.
Riomouse911
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The .22 version is pretty cool. Along with being a price-friendly trainer for the EDC centerfire, the .22 LCP II is definitely a good one for a trapper or hunter to carry who may need a close-in coup de gras shot on an animal where a centerfire isn't needed for that task.
Stay safe.
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Had a 'pair and a spare' LCPs; loved them, easy to hide, reliable, .380 caliber. Never crazy about the trigger, sights or recoil...snappy thing to shoot.
When the II came out, liked the Glockish trigger (it is in fact hammer fired), traded/sold the earlier models and went to the LCPII.
Give it mixed reviews; had a dead trigger issue that required a trip home to the factory, and the trigger pinches my finger. The slide only locks back with the newer magazines.
Guy at a gunshow modded my Alabama pocket holster to fit the II; they don't really interchange.
Since I got a G42, the Ruger hasn't seen much use.
Moon
When the II came out, liked the Glockish trigger (it is in fact hammer fired), traded/sold the earlier models and went to the LCPII.
Give it mixed reviews; had a dead trigger issue that required a trip home to the factory, and the trigger pinches my finger. The slide only locks back with the newer magazines.
Guy at a gunshow modded my Alabama pocket holster to fit the II; they don't really interchange.
Since I got a G42, the Ruger hasn't seen much use.
Moon
unclenunzie
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Might be Technaclip https://www.technaclip.com/Products/ruger-lcp-380
or the original Clipdraw: https://www.clipdraw.com/shop-gun-products/
I have the Technaclip version on my original gen-1 LCP, being left handed.
deadeye dick
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No it does't. As the old LCP did
i picked up an EC9S not too long ago, it’s been a great gun. Around 300-400 rounds through it and no issues.
The LCP II looks like a nice one as well.
The newer "original" LCP has a little bit better sights than the initial version. I have one and bought it over the LCP II mostly because it was a little smaller and I was more comfortable with the trigger given that it's a pocket pistol. I've certainly found it accurate enough for realistic distances and even beyond, and it definitely carries well. Price wise I think the II is generally a bit more but not enough to make any difference.
Cump
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The lcp ii is supposed to lock back on an empty lcp ii magazine. But it will not lock back on an original lcp magazine.
I don't remember what the frame pins looked like when I first bought it. Ruger only shows polymer frame pins, but it did have the barrel bolt type that the technaclip uses. Both the frame pins were replaced by the barrel bolts. I have ordered a set of the polymer pins to replace the allen barrel bolts.
SwampWolf
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Any LCP II (i.e., Glock type) trigger makes me more than a "bit nervous" carrying it in a pocket or otherwise, even with the trigger enclosed by a holster. Though the "partially but almost cocked" triggers are not inherently unsafe and most people get away with carrying them without incident, I regard them as being an unforgiving design configuration; almost akin to a 1911-style pistol being carried "cocked and unlocked" but, with the exceptions of Springfield Armory's X series pistols and a few others, sans a grip safety.
ulflyer
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Exactly, and for that reason I would not carry the LCPII. It was sold ...long ago.
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I chose the to purchase the original LCP because I wanted a DA pull for pocket carry. Mine gets carried 3-4 day's out of the year so I wasn't concerned with having the lighter trigger of the LCP II. My LCP is for "bad breath distances," and is shot enough to stay proficient and that's about it.
But different strokes for different folks, neither is a bad choice.
But different strokes for different folks, neither is a bad choice.
I find the LCP II to be a better gun (for me) in terms of trigger and aesthetics over the original. I bought the original LCP 10 years ago when my daughter was a baby. Carrying around a kiddo and a diaper bag was a lot. The little. 380 was very pocket friendly. I do like the build quality of materials of my BG 380 a bit more as I tend to rust Ruger steel with my acidic sweat, but I do shoot the LCP II better.
I have a feeling that there is a Glock 42 in my future. I have no need for another 9mm pocket gun and prefer the .380 for that. I can get along quite nicely with my other .380s, especially how well I shoot the LCP II, but I do have to keep it super wiped down.
I have a feeling that there is a Glock 42 in my future. I have no need for another 9mm pocket gun and prefer the .380 for that. I can get along quite nicely with my other .380s, especially how well I shoot the LCP II, but I do have to keep it super wiped down.
You won't regret getting a G42, It's sweet, especially if you reload.
DustyGmt
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I haven't shot the new II but I don't like it based on appearance. I do like my LCP though, it shoots whatever ammo I've run through it and I am very accurate with it up close. I don't like heavy long trigger pulls generally but I am pretty well practiced with the LCP and I like it. It's probably my favorite .380.
RUT
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>>I bought an original LCP when it first came out. I shot it but not a lot<<
Same here, but ditched it in favor of the LCPll as soon as it came out.
Same here, but ditched it in favor of the LCPll as soon as it came out.
DustyGmt
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My uncle has the kel tec P3AT, had it for at least 20 years, at least since I was a kid. I set out to buy one when I came of age because I thought it was so cool that you could carry a pistol with a magazine in your pant pocket. I always liked the look of it too. But when it came time for me to buy one, the gun shop I was at had 1 P3AT for $310 or thereabouts and they had the newly released LCP for $385, both a lil on the expensive side. My mom, who happened to be with me said I should get the LCP but I actually liked the look of the KT better. Then she said she would chip in the difference if I bought the "less homely looking one". Lol. So I got the LCP and I think it actually has a great trigger for the type of gun it is.
I have the lcp, stainless steel guide rod, 13# spring, Hogue grip, I painted the front sight bright green.
It is not sexy (it's not a glock or 1911, or, insert favorite gun type here)
It is not a target pistol (but with practice you can hit center mass consistently at 10 yards)
It has a longer trigger pull than a Kimber or Sig or other SA pistols - I am not a glock guy so don't know how that compares
The slide lock is a pain, but can be overcome with a firm push.
The first does not matter to me, the second becomes a question of practice until you are good enough at SD distances, and the third is something you have to decide if you can live with - I have shot DA revolvers so, it just took some time to get this - expect it to be more like a DA revolver than a SA 1911 and practice accordingly, see if that helps.
I have not handled or shot an LCP II so no opinion there, I do have a security 9, which supposedly has the same trigger as the LCP II and that is a decent trigger.
What I will say, is with a soft pocket holster, the lcp disappears in a pocket, maybe the LCP II does also, I dont know. I can take the LCP anywhere (that is legal of course), with little or no possibility of anyone noticing you are carrying. Shorts, winter vest or coat pocket, Slacks, etc. The truth is that most people that might care if you are carrying are so into their phones or themselves these days that they probably wouldn't notice anything you are carrying unless it happens to get visible right in front of their face for a second or two when they look up.
Maybe one day I will go shoot an LCP II if I get the opportunity, my point is, the LCP is small and concealable and there is really no excuse for not being armed. When I say to myself, I cant carry this or that due to going to church or printing or whatever, the LCP goes in my pocket - the LCP for me, helps me to always be armed.
I know this is an old quote, but, the First rule of a gunfight ... Have a gun.
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It is not sexy (it's not a glock or 1911, or, insert favorite gun type here)
It is not a target pistol (but with practice you can hit center mass consistently at 10 yards)
It has a longer trigger pull than a Kimber or Sig or other SA pistols - I am not a glock guy so don't know how that compares
The slide lock is a pain, but can be overcome with a firm push.
The first does not matter to me, the second becomes a question of practice until you are good enough at SD distances, and the third is something you have to decide if you can live with - I have shot DA revolvers so, it just took some time to get this - expect it to be more like a DA revolver than a SA 1911 and practice accordingly, see if that helps.
I have not handled or shot an LCP II so no opinion there, I do have a security 9, which supposedly has the same trigger as the LCP II and that is a decent trigger.
What I will say, is with a soft pocket holster, the lcp disappears in a pocket, maybe the LCP II does also, I dont know. I can take the LCP anywhere (that is legal of course), with little or no possibility of anyone noticing you are carrying. Shorts, winter vest or coat pocket, Slacks, etc. The truth is that most people that might care if you are carrying are so into their phones or themselves these days that they probably wouldn't notice anything you are carrying unless it happens to get visible right in front of their face for a second or two when they look up.
Maybe one day I will go shoot an LCP II if I get the opportunity, my point is, the LCP is small and concealable and there is really no excuse for not being armed. When I say to myself, I cant carry this or that due to going to church or printing or whatever, the LCP goes in my pocket - the LCP for me, helps me to always be armed.
I know this is an old quote, but, the First rule of a gunfight ... Have a gun.
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