32 s&w long ?

Levergunevan said:

They chase and kill my deer so my business is to eliminate them from my AO !

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Then I revise my post to include "if me or mine are being attacked..."

You really own deer, and dogs are killing them?

.38 Special said:

Depends on the definition of "errant". When I see dogs and coyotes minding their business, I mind mine. If I were being attacked by dogs or coyotes, I'd want a hell of a lot more gun than a .32 Long.

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A coyotes business is to survive, which means eating anything it can get in its mouth, including my chickens. Stray dog's, or those dumped out in the country by city folks, are worse because not only do they bother my livestock and chase deer, the males like to procreate with my female dogs. As such, I have a zero tolerance policy for either form of canine, that's just life sometimes. And in my experience a .22 LR fired from a rifle works fine on either, so I have no doubt a .32 S&W would as well.

35W

35 Whelen said:

The hollowpoint bullet is one I cast. It's 8.0 Bhn, weighs 121 gr. was loaded over 3.3 grs. of Unique. Fired from a S&W Hand Ejector with a 3.25" barrel, MV is 835 fps and the expanded bullet was fired into water. I think the revolver and load would make a dandy short range self defense set up.

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I also load a cast 103 gr. SWC over the same charge of Unique and it runs a bit north of 900 fps. Quite accurate too.

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And finally for a walkabout load I load a 118 gr. cast FP over 3.3 grs. of Unique for 838 fps.

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I also made a shot load out of a 327 Federal case with #9's and keep one of them in the cylinder too. Pretty effective too.

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35W

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I have your pistols less attractive twin. I was shooting it yesterday.

Levergunevan said:

32 s&w long effective enough for woods carry for errant yotes dogs and such as that? Opinions?

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If BB ever starts making their wadcutter load for it again, heck yes.

Nothing wrong with .32 h&r, either.

35 Whelen said:

A coyotes business is to survive, which means eating anything it can get in its mouth, including my chickens. Stray dog's, or those dumped out in the country by city folks, are worse because not only do they bother my livestock and chase deer, the males like to procreate with my female dogs. As such, I have a zero tolerance policy for either form of canine, that's just life sometimes. And in my experience a .22 LR fired from a rifle works fine on either, so I have no doubt a .32 S&W would as well.

35W

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So any time you see a dog you kill it? Serious question, as it's hard for me to understand how such a scenario could exist anywhere in the lower 48.

.38 Special said:

So any time you see a dog you kill it? Serious question, as it's hard for me to understand how such a scenario could exist anywhere in the lower 48.

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You bet.

Picture these scenarios:

A half dozen sheep hamstrung, not killed mind you, the dog just hamstrung them, you know they lay there bleating because they can't walk...or run. We had had to kill them ourselves, and the stray dog as well.

A neighbors dog running our herd of milk cows while they're in the trap (a small holding pen) after being milked. Know what happens when milks cows are harassed? They're production drops off.

My Border Collie bred by a mutt that some rectal orifice dumped on our road. Not the dogs fault, but not mine either and I'm the one that has to try to get rid of a bunch of mutt puppies that nobody wants.

The neighbors "Awww...he's just a big loveable puppy" dog chasing my cows and chickens. That one was wearing a collar, so in a weak moment I found the owners and told them that was the first and last time I would call them.

The same goes for my dogs, if they're harassing or chasing someone's livestock (which they never do) they're understandably subject to the same treatment.

And don't get me started on coyotes that are "minding their own business....".

I could go on, but surely you get the picture.

35W

35 Whelen said:

You bet.

Picture these scenarios:

A half dozen sheep hamstrung, not killed mind you, the dog just hamstrung them, you know they lay there bleating because they can't walk...or run. We had had to kill them ourselves, and the stray dog as well.

A neighbors dog running our herd of milk cows while they're in the trap (a small holding pen) after being milked. Know what happens when milks cows are harassed? They're production drops off.

My Border Collie bred by a mutt that some rectal orifice dumped on our road. Not the dogs fault, but not mine either and I'm the one that has to try to get rid of a bunch of mutt puppies that nobody wants.

The neighbors "Awww...he's just a big loveable puppy" dog chasing my cows and chickens. That one was wearing a collar, so in a weak moment I found the owners and told them that was the first and last time I would call them.

The same goes for my dogs, if they're harassing or chasing someone's livestock (which they never do) they're understandably subject to the same treatment.

And don't get me started on coyotes that are "minding their own business....".

I could go on, but surely you get the picture.

35W

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I agree. Growing up I had a beagle that would roam a bit. One day he came home shot through the shoulder and smelling like chicken manure. No doubt he had gotten in some farmer’s chicken house. I was not angry that he had been shot. Vet patched him up and he was fine. I kept him penned after that.

I think 32 S&WL could have been the reloadable 22RF if it had been promoted better back in the day. Oh, well.

I have some problems with ground hogs around our hobby horse farm. I took one out a few months ago with a 22RF revolver.

For the next one when they come out from hibernation, I am going to use one of my 32 caliber revolvers.

We live in a rural area where some coyotes are. We hear them but fortunately the leave our horses alone. We keep a watch and will be proactive if they start coming around.

35 Whelen said:

You bet.

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Same here. There is no tolerance for such behavior in this area of the lower 48, either. Livestock is money, after all.

As to the question, I can't see where the 32 S&W would be too lacking in the situations you mention. However, I will relate an anecdote of my own. Some years ago, I had a 4" H&R Guardsman in 32 S&W. It was my fishing gun, and I carried it quite a lot. It wasn't that accurate, but it fired every time it was needed. Worked quite well on snakes along the creeks I fished. One day, my friend and I were fishing and came upon some wild hog sign. I had the 32, and he was unarmed. We continued on our way, when there was a sudden rustle of brush and before us stood, in all his marauding anger... an armadillo! I fired at him 5 times, drilling him fair amidships each time. He still managed to run on back to his den. Not too long afterwards, I sold the H&R and the 1/2 box of Remington RN ammo I had. From then on, I carried a .38 on our fishing expeditions!

Mac

EMC45 said:

I have your pistols less attractive twin. I was shooting it yesterday.

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Picture please!

35W

I have several H&R models in .32 SWL and like the caliber.
It has a rather "healthy" reputation for accuracy and one-shot stops.
I also have a Ruger SS in .32 mag and a Single-Seven in .327! Now you are cooking with gas!

ThomasT said:

If you like the 32 long for a trail gun you will really like a 32 mag from a longer barrel. I have a couple of the older Ruger 32 mag single six revolvers with 5.5" barrels and adjustable sights and they are hands down my favorite trail guns and some of my over all favorite handguns. And like 35W I also load shot loads with #12 and #10 shot in the long and mag cases. I rarely load full bore 32mag loads so the 327 never appealed to me. But if I got one it would be the Ruger SS with 7.5" barrel to get all I could out of that round.

I still see the older original 32 mags from Ruger on GB all the time for around $500 or a little more. My only ever Holy Grail gun was a S&W model 631 in 32 mag with 4" barrel and adjustable sights. After many years of looking I finally found one at a price I could justify. Then after I got it I didn't like it as much as the Rugers so I sold it for a good profit. The Rugers are just the best for my uses.

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I can't speak to the Ruger's (I would think they are nice however)but my little Taurus in .32 H&R has been one of my best revolvers. (yes I still own a number of S&W revolvers for those that are not Taurus lovers). The .32 H&R is a nice step up from the .32 S&WL and would make a great cartridge for a kick around woods gun. I carry mine for SD and am not a bit concerned. If I could make my .44 Special as compact and light as my Titanium Taurus I would carry that, but for now I will stick with what I have.

Tallball said:

I shoot a fair amount of 32 S&W long.

My Single Six is particularly fond of it.

I would feel okay with it for critters.

I'd prefer a little more "oomph" for SD, but 32 S&W long is much better than a 22 or unkind words.

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I too would like more power for SD, which is why I really like .32 Mag, a hot +P .32 Mag, but I realize that's not for everyone. The thing I like about .32 revolvers as a whole is almost anybody can shoot them. Women, children, midgets, elderly that don't have hand issues, etc and the the options of low recoil .32 S&W, more recoil & power .32 Mag, and standard recoil & high power . 327 can all be available in one revolver.

Once more of the .32 revolvers show up in gun cases at stores, more women will see them and when they shoot them the word is going to spread fast and the industry is going to realize what a huge market they have for the .32 revolver and ammo and that will be a very good day for everyone. Hopefully one that will begin a renaissance of the caliber as a whole.

35 Whelen said:

You bet.

Picture these scenarios:

A half dozen sheep hamstrung, not killed mind you, the dog just hamstrung them, you know they lay there bleating because they can't walk...or run. We had had to kill them ourselves, and the stray dog as well.

A neighbors dog running our herd of milk cows while they're in the trap (a small holding pen) after being milked. Know what happens when milks cows are harassed? They're production drops off.

My Border Collie bred by a mutt that some rectal orifice dumped on our road. Not the dogs fault, but not mine either and I'm the one that has to try to get rid of a bunch of mutt puppies that nobody wants.

The neighbors "Awww...he's just a big loveable puppy" dog chasing my cows and chickens. That one was wearing a collar, so in a weak moment I found the owners and told them that was the first and last time I would call them.

The same goes for my dogs, if they're harassing or chasing someone's livestock (which they never do) they're understandably subject to the same treatment.

And don't get me started on coyotes that are "minding their own business....".

I could go on, but surely you get the picture.

35W

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You can throw foxes into the mix, too. The state protects them from trappers but it doesn’t protect calfs or chickens from them. A hungry, thirsty, dumped dog is a dangerous animal. They lose that varnish of civility real quick when they realize their human has betrayed them.

Ollllld Model 30 and my ollllld 870 WM. Along with the HE.

Someone said that they wanted pictures. Here is my 31-1:

Along with the Simply Rugged that I carry it in (yes, I am left handed):

The 3" SP101 (on the left) is more accurate with .32 S&WL than it is with .327 Fed Magnum. I wouldn't feel undergunned carrying either of these three 3" revolvers (Ruger SP101, Kimber K6S, S&W 64):

Thanks for the education, folks. I always have assumed that shooting a neighbor's dog would get a fellow into a heap of trouble, almost regardless of the circumstances.

Here is an old article from Gunblast about 32 mag revolvers. But the best part is the last paragragh about an early 20th century sheriff and his 32 Long revolver.

https://gunblast.com/WBell_SW32s.htm

Factory loads are kind of weak so handloading is a must if you're going to rely on one to take down big dogs. For that matter, handloading ANY .32 is almost a must these days.

.38 Special said:

Thanks for the education, folks. I always have assumed that shooting a neighbor's dog would get a fellow into a heap of trouble, almost regardless of the circumstances.

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The "people" who abandon their pets out my way aren't any neighbor of mine and when I catch them I report them to animal control and the Sheriff. Sad state of affairs such inhumanity is tolerated. We're talking about useless city garbage who can't or won't take care of their pets, NOT good people whose dog dug under the fence or bolted after a squirrel and didn't stop at the fenceline. If I know the dog, I call them and then their owner. If I don't know the dog and it is anything near aggressive, I don't give it a chance to bite me.

More .32 goodness. This 30-1 should be inbound in a few days from a seller right here on the forum:

coyotes are fairly skittish so a gun is usually not needed for them, but if one is needed, next to anything will work on a 50 pound dog that seems curious.

GeoDudeFlorida said:

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The "people" who abandon their pets out my way aren't any neighbor of mine and when I catch them I report them to animal control and the Sheriff. Sad state of affairs such inhumanity is tolerated. We're talking about useless city garbage who can't or won't take care of their pets, NOT good people whose dog dug under the fence or bolted after a squirrel and didn't stop at the fenceline. If I know the dog, I call them and then their owner. If I don't know the dog and it is anything near aggressive, I don't give it a chance to bite me.

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We used to live in the country south of town and people liked to drop off their no longer wanted cats and dogs. You couldn't set the garbage out because the dogs would tear in to it. Put it in back of the truck and the stray cats would tear in to it. I hated ever having ot hurt an animal. It wasn't their fault. I wish I could have found the former owner though.

JERRY said:

coyotes are fairly skittish so a gun is usually not needed for them, but if one is needed, next to anything will work on a 50 pound dog that seems curious.

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If anyone remembers the old gunwriter Bob Milek he used to post pictures of Coyotes he would kill with a Ruger 22 single six with 7.5" barrel and Remington Yellow Jackets. The best Hyper Velocity 22s ever made. I wish I had 500 of them.

If you prefer the classic look, this S&W Hand Ejector is from 1915-16. Its finish is ruined, but it still locks up tight and shoots as well as the stiff trigger and tiny sights allow. These things are small, smaller than a J-frame.



If I want to look like I know how to shoot, the 7.5" Single Six in 32 H&R magnum gives me a chance. The sights are decent and the trigger is light.