The venerable .380acp carbine, reimagined

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Obturation said:
On the wild frontier ammo is scarce , cartridge comparability is crucial . sometimes a longer shot is the difference between having a rat burger or just tree bark for dinner. Riding off into the sunset with a pistol and carbine in the same chambering wearing a bandoleir of .380s in a pink geo convertible , the man without a name. Oh wait, his name is Steve . well whatever, you know what I'm talking about.

I'd buy this, just for plinking around and it might even get some good velocity , like 1000 fps.
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Sounds like the Hi Point Drifter.
 
pairof44sp said:
As I fret over not having .380acp dies, now universally out of stock, I start having fantasies about a .380 carbine.

Surely no one is manufacturing those. Right?

Rong:

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To whom, I wonder, is Hi Point selling its pink 380 rifles, and what are they mostly used for?

I want one for sure!
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I haven't seen the pink one, but theres more than a few of those tooling around the big island. I watched a dude and his wife shoot a few hundred rounds out of one one day, looked like a really neat little option. I have the 9mm version and its actually a bit of a handfull.
 
I think it actually looks kind of cool! Hi-Points are fugly but they supposedly work pretty well and are made in the USA. I've heard the warranty is exceptional.
 
LoonWulf said:
I haven't seen the pink one, but theres more than a few of those tooling around the big island. I watched a dude and his wife shoot a few hundred rounds out of one one day, looked like a really neat little option. I have the 9mm version and its actually a bit of a handfull.
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This brings up another question I have: what are the benefits of straight blow back, given how much it seems to emphasize recoil. Why don’t they use delayed actions on PCCs like they do on just about all pistols?
 
I think a .380 ACP carbine is a spiffy idea.

Not every "gun owner" is like us. There are a lot of folks that only own one gun. A fair number of folks that own one gun own a .380. Some have begun to understand that a shoulder arm is easier to hit with under stress and in the dark by just pointing than a hand gun. Why not be able to keep the hand gun running and improve hit probability at the same time and keep just one ammo? Yes, if Mongo were coming in the front door with a carnivorous hitch to his cap, I would rather have that 12 gauge pump full of #1 Buck in the corner or the AR15 "carbine" next to the bed than any .380 ACP anything ....but I would rather have a 9 or ten shot .380 carbine than a 9 or 14 shot .380 handgun by itself.....and still have that handgun in reserve.

Shoot I to this day regret not buying one of the PI made faux AR15 in .32 ACP. A bud has a daughter that may be gifted a .32ACP semi auto for her 21st and while that may be fine for carry or even glove box....something like a faux AR in .32 ACP would be better in the house from a bunker in place situation.

Also the intimidation factor of a carbine is greater than an handgun and some of us believe a NO Shot Stop is better than a One Shot Stop.

Rule #2 of Gun fighting is have a gun ( Rule #1 is Avoid Gun Fights ) a .380 carbine beat no gun or a gun you can not shoot and hit with as easily

My Wife likes her little Honda match box car, I like my F-150. They do different jobs better......but both will just get you where you want to go......

-kBob
 
Dang it, Ian's catalog is too big. I know he covered either a Walther or Mauser hunting carbine , I just can't find the video.
A pretty thing of walnut & blued steel--not that I can find the video now.
Seemed like it would have been right up Marlin's alley.
 
You know, a .32 ACP carbine, even say a single shot drop block like a crack shot would look an awful lot like reloadable .22.

A little bolt action that uses KT P32 mags and had decent sight and mount options would be nice.

I am interested in the Henty Leveraction .327 as it stands as a reloadable shell rifle for times when I have a can of pistol powder and a brick of small pistol primers and no or hard to find .22 RF Whatever.

-kBob
 
Since 25acp was basically made to be amore reliable option that a rimfire 22.....I don't know why no one has really done much with it. Basically a reloadable 22 like mentioned above
 
CoalCrackerAl said:
I have the Hi-point carbines 9mm 40sw 45 acp and the 10mm. I have thought about getting one in 380. If i see a used one for under 200.00 Then i might grab one. I traded my Hi-point pistols towards my CZ 457. They were just safe queens. I didn't shoot them after upgrading. I got more for them than i paid. Out of pocket for the CZ was 58.00.
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I like the cut of your jib.
 
Nothing venerable about it but it's a neat idea. On Page 318 of my 1966 edition of Small Arms of the World the authors picture the Czech Model 61 sub machine chambered in 32 ACP. "With a weapon of the M61 type however there is the possibility of obtaining multiple hits on a target." And a hit with a minor caliber hurts a lot worse than a Miss with a Major.
 
I think the High Point Carbines are kind of cool! To me the 9mm would be the cartridge to have one in based on normal availability and cartridge cost. Today I would by one in 45acp because I have 45 ammo on hand.

I wonder what the velocity gain of the 380 would be in the carbine?
 
WisBorn said:
I think the High Point Carbines are kind of cool! To me the 9mm would be the cartridge to have one in based on normal availability and cartridge cost. Today I would by one in 45acp because I have 45 ammo on hand.

I wonder what the velocity gain of the 380 would be in the carbine?
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Probably not a lot, it's not high powered by any means
 
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