Discussion on H.R. 8 and H.R. 1446 passage

Balrog said:

Georgia's 2 new Democrat Senators, Warnock and Osoff, will vote for gun control bills, and there is no amount of letter writing we can do to stop it.

This bill will pass the Senate, and Biden will sign it into law. It is a done deal.

The only way to stop this one is if it gets overturned in the Supreme Court.

Don't mean to sound pessimistic, it is just the reality of having all three branches of government controlled by Democrats.

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rust collector said:

Both Rounds and Thune from South Dakota are staunch 2a supporters. That does not mean they will let a single issue control everything they do. They will choose their battles. Meanwhile, there is plenty of work to be done.

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Balrog said:

Georgia's 2 new Democrat Senators, Warnock and Osoff, will vote for gun control bills, and there is no amount of letter writing we can do to stop it.

This bill will pass the Senate, and Biden will sign it into law. It is a done deal.

The only way to stop this one is if it gets overturned in the Supreme Court.

Don't mean to sound pessimistic, it is just the reality of having all three branches of government controlled by Democrats.

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GEM said:

So can you identify the 10 Republican senators that will go along with busting the filibuster? Unless that happens, it is not a done deal.

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AlexanderA said:

The filibuster can be overturned issue-by-issue. Gun laws would probably be the last for which this would happen.

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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Chuck Schumer said on this week’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “The Sunday Show” that everything “will be on the table,” including changing the filibuster rule if Republicans in the Senate obstruct President Joe Biden’s agenda.

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Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) convened a Zoom conference late last year to talk ideas about the filibuster and other Senate rules with his caucus.

By the second call, Durbin had turned the effort over to Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), who has a lot of them.

“He really took a personal interest in it. ... By the next time we had a conference call I said, ‘I want to turn this over to Jeff,’” Durbin said.
Merkley (Oregon Senator) has been intensely but quietly lobbying his colleagues about the potential for changes to the filibuster, as well as taking part in a bipartisan group discussing smaller rules changes, efforts he ties to a decision made last year when he ran for a third term.

“I was wrestling with whether to run for reelection. I’ve got a limited number of years of life. I could do many different things. ... I thought well if I run for reelection it’s going to be because I make an all-out push to restore the Senate as a functioning body,” Merkley told The Hill, noting that he’s spoken to every member of the Democratic caucus over the past year.

Those discussions became significantly less abstract earlier this year when Democrats swept the two Senate races in Georgia, adding significant fuel to calls from outside groups and progressives for Democrats to invoke the “nuclear option” in order to kill the filibuster.

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