gyp_c2
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That girls can't shoot.
To this date, every female I've taught to shoot, OUTSHOOTS ME!
To this date, every female I've taught to shoot, OUTSHOOTS ME!
Which gun myth(s) did you used to believe?
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Rubone
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But it was used previously in "Pat Garret and Billy the Kid" when Kristofferson shoots the sheriff with his own shotgun and says "Keep the change , Bob".
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ApacheCoTodd
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Ah yes.... the abject dismissal of the .410 as well as 16ga. as serious hunters. So true.
Todd.
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Your clothes dryer may share some of the responsibility for the sock to gun disparity.
That is why I never machine wash and dry my guns.
entropy
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Billy the Kid purportedly shot Deputy Bob Olinger with dimes Bob had loaded in it. The story has found it's way into several movies, as has been mentioned. The comment Billy said is anyone's guess, only the two of them heard it, and Bob wasn't in a state to hear well. Forensic ballistics not being very advanced at the time, the dime thing may well have been fabricated as well.
entropy
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That girls can't shoot.
To this date, every female I've taught to shoot, OUTSHOOTS ME!
So true. Some of the boys, too.
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Depends where you get your notions from?
"Little Armalite", also known as "My Little Armalite" or "Me Little Armalite" is an Irish Republican song that praises Armalite
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Reading CB Colby's book in grade school set me on a course to a career in Special Forces. In all this time the single ridiculous item that has always stuck with me is the following (below, about the car) along with the *truism* that an M-16 projectile can/will enter at the elbow, travel along the bone and pierce the heart, lungs or other pumpy-bits. Myths that started in the 60s that died a hard death in the early 80s.
entropy
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Yes, the Armalite 180.
The IRA is still the biggest user group of AR-180's to have 'adopted' it.
entropy
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Also about the rate of fire. It's a bit lower than 750.
ApacheCoTodd
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True - I put that down to salesmanship-license.
750 is closer to 1,000 while 700 is closer to 500 in the eye of the consumer.... At least in America.
Todd.
mstreddy
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I love this one so much, I named my 5.56/223 upper for my SBR AR -- Poodle Shooter!
ApacheCoTodd
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Great myth! Now, if only we could get that to be an accepted myth by the *media* and politicians.... we'd have naught but PETA to worry about.
Todd.
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I used to believe, as a teenager, that a sawed off shotgun created a tremendously greater spread than one not sawed off.
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One villager I know north of here had 3 calibers.
.22 magnum in a HK300 that was good on anything up to caribou size critters.
.243 winchester good on anything up to but not including brown bear.
And 16 gauge because nobody in duck camp could mooch any of his cartridges.
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.308 Norma
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I don't remember seeing that old western, but Hollywierd is obviously still perpetuating the same stupid, silly myth. Just the night before last, my wife and I rented the recently released western movie, "News of the World" with Tom Hanks. At one point in the movie, when 2 of the 3 bad guys (Tom had already killed 1 bad guy with his revolver) were closing in on Tom Hanks and the young girl he was protecting, the only ammo Tom Hanks had left was shotgun shells loaded with "birdshot." So the quick thinking young girl dumped the shot out of the shotgun shells, and replaced it with dimes. And that allowed Tom Hanks to dispatch the remaining 2 bad guys because he obviously had "more effective" ammo for his shotgun.
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#1 - Gun stores are a good place to go for advice on firearms and shooting. This isn't to say I haven't heard good advice in a gun store. On occasion I have heard or been given excellent advice. I've also heard some of the most cockeyed bad advice I've ever come across. Seek advice from several sources!
#2 - That I could shoot well. This one seems to be a failing of people possessing the XY chromosome pair every where. Didn't take long after I joined a club to be exposed to fellas who really could shoot well. I began to improve after that.
#3 - Related to #2 that females cannot shoot. To be sure I've seen some that were hilarious and a few that were frightening, but by and large they are more willing to listen and do what their instructors tell them to than males are. I was pleased when my daughter began to outshoot me for I knew I had done a good job of teaching and she of learning.
#4 - Cartridges should be loaded to near or max charges to be effective. There are some situations where max loads are called for, but by and large more moderate loads are easier to shoot, easier on the gun and the brass, and will usually get the job done.
#5 - That I have enough ammunition. Every time I get fed up with trying to find a place to keep it all some jackass in Washington or Tallahassee does something that makes me rethink! The same applies to reloading components as well.
#6 - Organization isn't that important. I'll remember where it is, how much I've got, or why I did it. HA! Double HA! A few times of buying something I already had (and did not need a second of), coming up with a box of my own reloads that I couldn't recall how I had loaded it, or finding a box or two or three or four of ammo I had forgotten about buying after putting it where ever forced an evolution of my thinking.
#7 - There will always be time. This one has been the hardest lesson of all. Now some of the people I most wanted to share the experiences with have died. Also, my eyesight isn't what it once was. Kids grow up and have their own lives. If it's important to you then make the time. Maybe you'll only be able to make a little, but better than ten or twenty years later when it's too late.
#2 - That I could shoot well. This one seems to be a failing of people possessing the XY chromosome pair every where. Didn't take long after I joined a club to be exposed to fellas who really could shoot well. I began to improve after that.
#3 - Related to #2 that females cannot shoot. To be sure I've seen some that were hilarious and a few that were frightening, but by and large they are more willing to listen and do what their instructors tell them to than males are. I was pleased when my daughter began to outshoot me for I knew I had done a good job of teaching and she of learning.
#4 - Cartridges should be loaded to near or max charges to be effective. There are some situations where max loads are called for, but by and large more moderate loads are easier to shoot, easier on the gun and the brass, and will usually get the job done.
#5 - That I have enough ammunition. Every time I get fed up with trying to find a place to keep it all some jackass in Washington or Tallahassee does something that makes me rethink! The same applies to reloading components as well.
#6 - Organization isn't that important. I'll remember where it is, how much I've got, or why I did it. HA! Double HA! A few times of buying something I already had (and did not need a second of), coming up with a box of my own reloads that I couldn't recall how I had loaded it, or finding a box or two or three or four of ammo I had forgotten about buying after putting it where ever forced an evolution of my thinking.
#7 - There will always be time. This one has been the hardest lesson of all. Now some of the people I most wanted to share the experiences with have died. Also, my eyesight isn't what it once was. Kids grow up and have their own lives. If it's important to you then make the time. Maybe you'll only be able to make a little, but better than ten or twenty years later when it's too late.
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That a 24 gun safe is big enough.
That NO, you DON'T need another safe just for ammo
That you don't have to worry about losing your guns in the US, due to the 2nd Amendment
That my beloved 10mm was dead and just didn't know it
That NO, you DON'T need another safe just for ammo
That you don't have to worry about losing your guns in the US, due to the 2nd Amendment
That my beloved 10mm was dead and just didn't know it
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Good thing I didnt have that book to read in the 1980's.
Back in 1988 some of us aviation tech school guys ahd a handfull of sodium filled exhaust valves off a monster old radial engine (p&wR-2380), at the time it was recommended they be thrown in the river or ocean for disposal.
The drizzly weekend we shot those heavy steel valves with a mini-14.
Those 5.56 rounds poked nifty clean holes right through those valves like butter, the drizzle ignited the sodium.
Amazed the heck outta me the 5.56 could punch nice clean holes in thick steel valves.
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.308 Norma
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I don't remember that one, but I do remember a few of the guys I worked with back in the '80s that swore up and down that they "knew someone" who had a "cousin" (or whatever) that had their wrist broken by .44 Magnum recoil. Funny thing was, my 5'2", 120lb wife was winning, or at least placing in match after match of IHMSA competitions back then, and she was shooting one or the other of her 2, .44 Magnums with full-house (a big charge of 2400 behind a 220 gr bullet) loads.
On the other hand (no pun intended) my lovely wife struggles with arthritis in her right thumb joint nowadays, and we contribute that (at least in part) to the thousands of full-house .44 Magnum loads she fired back in the '80s. She still has 1 of her .44 Magnum revolvers though, and a shelf lined with trophies in the basement bedroom.
.308 Norma
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Ah, yes! The mystic "one more gun." I believe in that one.
Roknstevo
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None....I don’t believe anything I hear, and only 10% of what I see. Used to be half of what I see, but photoshop and media have reduced that number.
I always enjoyed his books when I was in high school. No special forces stuff for me tho, retired from AF in 95.
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