Virginia Jim
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Most likely a cumulative failure. The gun began to fail with early rounds and the last shot finished the process.
modern guns can take over pressure, something else happened. MY guess... Squib
Well he already blew up one gun and dang near killed himself so I don't think I want to talk reloading with this guy!
modern guns can take over pressure, something else happened. MY guess... Squib
Very true unless when they fire a 9mm and the recoil looks like a full power .357 Magnum round lol...
Where would a new reloader even find component?When ammo started disappearing from stores, I started seeing a lot of new box ammo coming up in regular auctions. By last fall the ammo in the auctions started turning in vintage boxes of ammo. Looks like people hearing about the high prices started emptying their closest. By early spring, bags and boxes of old random reloads started showing up more and more. Lately a lot of new bags and boxes of reloads are showing up in auctions.
My gut tells me there is more than a few people out there that are new reloaders taking advantage of the ammo prices and desperation buying by new gun owners. I would bet there will be more ka-booms this year from new gun owners buying high priced reloads from unknown sources.
If the reloads were selling for a discount, I could see someone buying them for components. But who would pay current high retail prices for an ammo can of unknown reloads? $1000 for 1000ct "9mm reloads in plastic ammo can" with 35+ bids. Its insane.
yeah! I’m also dyslexic, but with reloading and everything else. I have a process of checking my double check by repeating QC over and over and over.Oh man...that sounds like a dyslexic reloader going straight for max loads. That is unfortunate. Looking up 45 data on hogdon's site, they only have 2 loads, a 230g FMJ flat point, with a coal of 1.200. The other is a lead round nose. 6.8g of CFE-P is the max for the FMJ, and 1.200 seems like it would be on the short side for a round nose. Add in some bad neck tension/little or no crimp for a little setback, 8.6g, nearly 3 grains over max, yeah...something is going to let go.
you have to wait in line. Sportsman, gets shipments on Wednesday and post on their FB once deliveredWhere would a new reloader even find component?
wow!!!Today's update;
This guy actually came back yesterday afternoon, talked with our GM and actually shot again. The first news of importance is after he arrived home from the ER Weds. he immediately sold all of his reloading equipment and supplies. Stitches to his face and finger.
GM as I said talked to him and yes it appears they were loaded to 8.6gr of CFE Pistol and were also possibly a double charged compressed load. This was not a squib! GM also said the guy stated he will be OK but was still in terrible pain. Apparently he has not been permanently banned.
So I guess this also ties into the 1k 9mm rounds I was given by a fellow RO that had someone load them for him and he shot some with all sorts of problems and multiple squibs. Of what I have pulled apart already I have found no consistency with these powder charges and the neck tension also seems to be all over the place.
I too know of very few people that I trust enough to fire their reloaded bullets. Even then I only fire it in their guns, not mine. I also do not offer to reload for anyone besides my own family and only allow people to fire my loads only in my guns that it has been tested in by me.
Now today while working at the 300yd rifle range I had someone come in and they told me that there were going to be shooting first time hand loads and asked if I wanted to check it first. There really isn't anything to check while at the range with no measuring tools other than to see if it would chamber and extract. So I told him to load one at a time and I'd look at them. Then to load 2 at a time to see if they would function and fully cycle.
Results were they all fired, were fairly accurate though probably a little under powered for his AR. I was grateful that he gave me a heads-up with these loads so I could keep a watchful eye on him.
Yeah, and the "more power!! grunt-grunt-grunt!" types just encourage those people who "ask Google" not to take good advice when it's given.Well, with the influx of millions of new shooter and an unknown amount of new reloaders, think about how many more kaboom threads we would have if components were readily available.
For every “How many grains of Bullseye for 180 grain 308 Winchester, using Federal LPP?” Thread. How many folks do you think there are that don’t even ask?
New Reloader needs guidance, and direction. The more reloaders the better for the community! Just think of all the new Presses and tech in the works to fill this BOMB market!One thing I have noticed on other groups and mainly FB is guys are asking does this powder work? whats your load? I need a powder I can use for this bullet because thats all I can find and they dont actually do research. It's great having Walkalong and others here to squash the nonsense that will get someone hurt.
they have a Super Max Load that’s even higher. Look up 9mm Major. usually for compensator guns. It uses the same case and components as normal 9mmI tried a max load last weekend (6.0 gr of Unique in 9mm), and the first shot I got pressure signs. I verified this with 2 rangemasters who reload. I don't see any benefit of approaching max with pistol, in fact I get better accuracy with lower mid-range. If I need to load max for some reason, I need a different caliber.
Yeah, and the "more power!! grunt-grunt-grunt!" types just encourage those people who "ask Google" not to take good advice when it's given.
I’m getting there too. I use to think, if it wasn’t over .45 caliber it wasn’t worth it... NOW, .22 is a pleasure and funWhen I was a kid, I worked up 357 mag loads that were not too far from 41 mag power levels, now I take a 44 mag and load them down to 41 mag levels.
Part of being young and old I guess...
Not sure if the internet would have got me into trouble or kept me out of it but I am real glad cell phones didn’t exist back then.
Seems no one answered your post, so I went and tried it out. Which leads me to think he made a hot load, but not a 1911 killer.How full does 7 or 8gr of cfe fill a 45acp case?