Long Range double stack 1911

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The Glock 40 is the perfect platform for 9x25mm Dillon, by the way...

I regret having come in too late to the game to buy one of those 9" Lone Wolf barrels for this round.

One may argue that it doesn't really bring that much more to the table, compared to what a full Norma 10mm load does...

But oh, the blast...

...and the fun.
 
I can't remember my recipes, but I vaguely recall 10gr of Longshot behind one of Hornady's 125gr X___ bullets.

In a 6" Bar - Sto barrel.

Range / accuracy heaven.
 
You're describing a USPSA Open division pistol, just they use 38 Super instead of a crazy necked down case.

Realistically, get an SV or STI 2011 in 9x19 and put a red dot on it, and then practice a lot.
 
Forget about autos and revolvers, bolt action is the way to go. Pick a Wichita, XP-100, TC Contender and you're half way there, then picking the caliber gets you the rest of the way :)
Already have an Encore in .223 . Not much of a project .
 
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You're describing a USPSA Open division pistol, just they use 38 Super instead of a crazy necked down case.

Realistically, get an SV or STI 2011 in 9x19 and put a red dot on it, and then practice a lot.
Already have a STI 2011 in 38 super . I’m getting bored with red dots wanting to do something different . 4DE7373B-EE97-4BB6-9805-E8C0AF0E510E.jpeg
 
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Any regrets , would you do it again ?

Regrets?

Not at all...

The only thing I'm going to do once I've finished my current set of handloads is reduce the charge.

This combination delivers as much energy as a lower - end .357 Magnum, not sure the Glock frame is built for this much abuse.
 
Regrets?

Not at all...

The only thing I'm going to do once I've finished my current set of handloads is reduce the charge.

This combination delivers as much energy as a lower - end .357 Magnum, not sure the Glock frame is built for this much abuse.
Any thing unique about feeding, reloading or anything? Do you buy brass or form ?
 
Any thing unique about feeding, reloading or anything? Do you buy brass or form ?

It's the only pistol round I've handloaded for, and my experience has been incredibly free of issues. It feeds incredibly well, by virtue of its bottleneck design. Just like .357 SIG, but without the issues involving the short neck / poor neck tension / bullet ogive going below the case lips (look up issues involving handloading for the .357 SIG).

And, oh, it's considered a "wildcat!"





You need (rather, I use...):

1. Starline 10mm Auto Brass
2. Hornady's HAP .355" 125gr (this is a tight, accurate bullet - probably generates higher pressures - most others are sized 0.354") or Precision Delta's 124gr 9mm
3. Dillon Precision 9x25mm Carbide Dies
4. 9mm Expander Mandrel for .357 SIG
5. A "Custom" Barrel of sorts

Size (...form, actually - but in this case it's one and the same!) the brass as you would any rifle round. With the residual polish from Starline, and the smooth carbide finish on the dies, you don't really need any lubricant (but I use some form of Teflon Spray - Hornady's One Shot or Liquid Wrench). Your barrel serves as the case gauge. Glock barrels are so minimalist, that when you stand it up muzzle down, all you need to do is drop the round in - the rear hood is where the breech face should be. To check for proper sizing, balance a flat, rigid, metal ruler on the rear of the hood, and make sure no light passes through the gap between the ruler and the case head. If I recall correctly, Glock magazines accommodated an OAL of 1.27".

Caveat: I formed my brass on a single - stage press, so I knew my brass came out exactly the way I wanted each time... A progressive may be more finicky, of which I have no experience with.

Best powders are probably Hodgdon's Longshot (LOUDshot) or IMR's 800x. I won't go beyond 10gr of the former. As a matter of fact... I'd probably go between 9.0 and 9.5gr for my pistol (Glock 40 MOS, 6" Bar - Sto barrel).

Proceed with caution! This is a high pressure cartridge, and case lips are said to split by the 4th loading.

The chance of a Kaboom! is very real... I disavow myself of any responsibility should you encounter any mishaps from the above!!! :lolz:

I was paranoid enough to wear my Kevlar shooting gloves when I first tried it out (fairly experienced with rifle handloads, this was my first attempt for pistols).
 
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Contemplating the next project . I’m thinking 1911 , scoped , compensated , double stack , chambered in 9x25 Dillon to shoot those 147 gr. boat tail bullets at longer ranges. Thoughts and opinions? Should be interesting at least .
Edit : Long range for an auto loader .
Just my 2¢ but if you want long range from a handgun, buy a Super 14 barrel made in 9x25mm and have at it with a Contender. Or, use a self-loading pistol with a fixed barrel, like the Mauser '96 or P-08 Luger; or, go up to a Wildey in 9mm Winchester Magnum. I doubt you'll have any accuracy issues with a Wildey at that range. I think probably the Browning 1911 and 1935 platform's tilting barrels will give you fits at longer ranges, past 200 meters, no matter how tight or "accurized" the swinging link/cam block might be.
 
just to piss off some of the rifle guys
Any time you design an aspect of your life around making other people angry - strangers or people you know - you invite disaster, hate, disappointment, and evil into your soul.

My suggestion is to try and avoid doing anything in life which is not good and beneficial, if not to you, then to everyone around you. Just sayin'
 
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Yeah...

Are you sure about that? :rofl: :lolz:
That's closer to an ideal rig. A fixed barrel vs. swinging link or tilting block is the way to go, IMO. I like the T/C, and have Super 14 barrel in .35Rem, a Super 16 in .223, a plain 10" in .30-30, but I rarely need more than one shot to take an animal - it lines up or I don't take the shot; and, I am not a competitive shooter so my only interest is the mechanical difference between longer-range and shorter-range firearms in a <16" barrel. Yes, a handgun can be used to hit things at a distance. So can a longbow.

FWIW: Before I learned to use a bow I still knew bows could be used for much farther shots than the traditional 75-100 yards most people hunt at. At Agincourt, the Welsh bowman were picking off French knights at close to 200 English yards and scores of them on horseback at half an English mile in volley fire.
 
Not much of a project.

Know what, having missed this earlier...

Other than trying out a new round, this isn't much of a new project, either.

It's just some new dies and a not - so - custom barrel, when you think about it...

Not sure if this would be a good enough measure of fun.
 
That's closer to an ideal rig. A fixed barrel vs. swinging link or tilting block is the way to go, IMO. I like the T/C, and have Super 14 barrel in .35Rem, a Super 16 in .223, a plain 10" in .30-30, but I rarely need more than one shot to take an animal - it lines up or I don't take the shot; and, I am not a competitive shooter so my only interest is the mechanical difference between longer-range and shorter-range firearms in a <16" barrel. Yes, a handgun can be used to hit things at a distance. So can a longbow.

FWIW: Before I learned to use a bow I still knew bows could be used for much farther shots than the traditional 75-100 yards most people hunt at. At Agincourt, the Welsh bowman were picking off French knights at close to 200 English yards and scores of them on horseback at half an English mile in volley fire.
They were using volley fire against the french military forces and the archers were firing for area effect. They had the range and 1,000's of arrows were released to land on the french forces. The same tactic and be used with guns also.
For the Agincourt campaign, King Henry V bought 300,000 arrows, along with dozens of carts to move them across France.
 
Any time you design an aspect of your life around making other people angry - strangers or people you know - you invite disaster, hate, disappointment, and evil into your soul.

My suggestion is to try and avoid doing anything in life which is not good and beneficial, if not to you, then to everyone around you. Just sayin'
Noted. I will clarify that the "rifle guys" I'm referring to are relatives. There's a competitive gene we all possess, so anytime an opportunity to show them up presents itself, I'll do my best.

I expect no less from them.
 
Know what, having missed this earlier...

Other than trying out a new round, this isn't much of a new project, either.

It's just some new dies and a not - so - custom barrel, when you think about it...

Not sure if this would be a good enough measure of fun.
It’s sounding more interesting to me all the time . Nothing against a Contender , I have an Encore in .223 and it shoots great and has a nice trigger , even the grip is nice . Zero limitations on calibers . Scope mounts readily available , round barrel compensator’s millions to choose from . Plop down the plastic card and assemble in 30 minutes . Some people like that . I’ve made rifle Comps and their pretty simple . Now case forming a somewhat unique cartridge , semi auto pistol caliber limitation’s , making the pistol compensator and scope mount from 2 lb blocks of metal , that’s interesting to me at least . To each there own .
 
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