When will Glock give us 45 and 10mm single stacks?

Balrog said:

When will Glock give us 45 and 10mm single stacks?

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Um ... Glock 36?

The 36 is an ill designed gun as to the grip needs a reduction and the clunky magazine is silly. A more standard and slimmer (in the dimension across the grip) would be useful.

Lots of info out there about malfunctioning G36s. Some are good but good luck getting it. I held one in my LGS once. Grip is just weird to me.

I’m not sure Glock cares much about the 45ACP. But they did just release the 5th gen 40S&W so anything could happen.

SIG isn't making any .40 SW this year, Glock limiting production on .45 or 10mm would make sense. Much the same as ammo makers, the small lot production is dropped while the mass demand items continue plunking out profit instead of changing the tooling and losing money in the process.

.45 ACP and 10mm aren't common in contracted production, it's a civilian market, which gets short shrift as it is with Glock. They waited years to bring out a single stack, it was talked about in the internet but a back burner project considering their sense of urgency getting it to market. Much like Colt in the day - who now sees the error of their ways. "We're Colt, but we can change, and make Anacondas again, we guess."

Send a personal letter to Gaston Glock.
Be polite but firm as to your needs.
He'll respond.

I'm leaving towards never.

But I'm willing to be surprised.

A ten round single stack .45 or 10mm would be bigger than the current micro carry craze, yet too small to serve the duty capacity that most Glocks seem to be geared towards.

Throw into the case that 10mm and .45 are niche calibers, especially for small carry guns, and recoil and durability get harder as the gun gets smaller, there's a small market, increased engineering needs and a dubious return on investment. Unless things change significantly in the market, I'm just not seeing it in a crowded gun market.

I personally believe we’ll see them by early 2022 latest, Probably by next Shot Show, but my gut tells me this Fall.

I would really like to see a handgun a bit thinner than a G17 and half way between a G17 and G19. I think with poly mags, we’d be looking at a 10 round 10MM and 8 round .45 (flush fit).

then, Shield Arms can immediately design metal mage that increase capacity by 3-5 rounds

ETA: and it should be a MOS slide

A 10 round single stack 45 ACP or 10mm magazine (that could hold 12 rounds) would make the pistols height about 6.5" tall. Or about an inch taller (sights to butt) than the current tall G20 & G21 with 15 and 13 round magazines respectively. One only has to look at the size of a Sig P220 10 round 45 ACP mag to get a visual. The grip would be ridiculously long.

Glock does make a 10 round 45 that isn’t single stack but has a way smaller grip than the G21. The G37 and G38(8round) in 45GAP. Ballistics are almost identical to 45ACP. Reloading is virtually the same but almost everyone hates the gun and the caliber. Either way this might be another reason for Glock not to expand on the 45ACP line of guns.

My G36 with a 7 round magazine extension from Hyve. It runs great, but it hates limp-wristing almost as much as a 3" barreled 1911. It fits my hands differently than other guns I have, but somehow it feels perfect when firing it. 10 round single stack magazines in this gun would look like 33 round magazines in a G19, I'd think.

Edit to add, the mags for the G36 are already a staggered "single stack".

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The most popular carry guns are 9s, don't get a lot of people wanting single stack 40, 45, or 10s. The G29 is a great little 10 and probably as small as I'd be comfortable with for the caliber..

GEM said:

The 36 is an ill designed gun as to the grip needs a reduction and the clunky magazine is silly.

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That pretty much applies to all Glocks.

I'd disagree. My Glock 26 (3rd Gen) and 4th Gen 17 fit me pretty well. I didn't like the 3rd gen 19 finger grips.

GEM said:

I'd disagree. My Glock 26 (3rd Gen) and 4th Gen 17 fit me pretty well. I didn't like the 3rd gen 19 finger grips.

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Absolutely agree. For me the Gen 4 17 with medium beavertail and Gen 4 21 with no backstraps fit my hands like they were molded for me.

Same goes with the Gen 5 19 and medium beavertail.

Very few guns fit my hands better.

In fact, one of my favorite parts of my HK45C is it feels a lot like my Glock 19s in width and length.

My 1911 fits me well also. I never understood the folks who say they can't shoot a Glock because of the grip angle. I can and I'm not a super pro. I regard most of that statement as trying to be 'cool'. Most of the pros I know can shoot a Glock well. If they like other guns better, that's true but the virtue signaling, chest pounding - BAH!

Practice your grip, trigger control and you should be able to shoot most modern not micro semis and older ones like the 1911 decently.

I agree. In fact recently I decided to do a little comparison with some simple drills (Bill, Devil, some random number of targets/rounds I made up) and ran a Sig 228, HK HK45C, Glock 19 and Dan Wesson VBob alternating in a row.

As long as I gave myself a few practice draws I was able to post similar times and almost identical accuracy on any given drill, splits were obviously a bit different between the 9mm and .45 but first shot on target between Glock, 1911 and DA/SA were right at my normal and accuracy for all was solid.

I'm no pro, not a speed shooter and don't compete, just like to try to improve at the range, but it reinforced my growing realization that given time and effort I can shoot about anything to my skill limit.

That and dry fire is really, really, helpful. I wish I would have accepted that years ago.

I try to shoot my various guns at matches. I usually do the Glocks but maybe out of 5, 2 will be the 1911 or a revolver. Of course 45 ACP prices are evil.

When someone orders about 100,000 of them. Gun companies don't stay profitable and in business long building a handful of guns that don't sell well. When a distributor orders enough of something to justify shutting down the assembly line and retooling to build enough to ensure they will make a profit on them then they might consider it. If they don't sell that will be the distributors problem.

Be worse in this case as they'd have to design new mags, followers, baseplates, etc etc

GEM said:

I'd disagree. My Glock 26 (3rd Gen) and 4th Gen 17 fit me pretty well. I didn't like the 3rd gen 19 finger grips.

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It's interesting how finger grooves fit different people. I usually detest them. I cut them off my Bersa's grips and the compact Hogues for my S&W 66 were apparently not designed for my hands either. But the relatively subtle finger grooves on my G36 seem just right.

I liked the grip angle on my brother Glock 44. I shot it well and hit my little pop up target. Im getting one next month as a B-day gift to myself. Found one at the LGS that was bought there new. And returned because the person. Did not like the idea of no safety. So it's on hold for me. 325.00.

I like my G44. It's been finicky on jamming. I'm learning the magazine load tricks to prevent that.

GEM said:

I never understood the folks who say they can't shoot a Glock because of the grip angle.

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Confession is good for conversation, I suppose.

I griped about the Glock grip except the G20, which I shot extremely well. It's also the only Glock I had shot at that point in time (cut me some slack, this was years ago when I knew everything).

Many years down the road of wisdom and after shooting numerous Glocks, it's on my short list for next handgun purchase.