And you never saw anybody touch a round off when they didn't mean to? Next time you're at an indoor range, look at the walls, ceilings and floors.
The indoor and outdoor ranges simply show how scary many people using, and maybe carrying guns are, and that many need training and work, just to be "basically" safe. Although Im sure they all think they are experts if you question them.
Ive shot a many of those ranges over the years and have seen all sorts of pretty scary stuff, and really don't like going to any of them that are busy or heavily used. Holes in dividers, tables, walls, floors, ceilings, as you described, is a good indicator of "what the weapon is, doesn't matter". Basic safety and common sense doesn't seem to either.
You have made it very clear you believe a good holster and trigger discipline are the only safeties needed on a pistol. Unfortunately, you have also shown your disdain for ANY other possible explanation concerning manual safeties and instead simply attack others as being incompetent.
I hope you are always as good -and thus safe- as you think you are. I and many others have, and will continue, to take extra steps when we believe it is appropriate to better ensure safety.
I believe a good holster and trigger discipline are the two things that differentiate the educated and the nimrods. What does it matter if the gun has a safety or not?
Ive carried guns that had either a manual safety or a DA first strike trigger, and always followed the same drill as I do with my Glocks. If the gun has a safety, I use it, except with guns like the Beretta's, or similar that have slide, or even frame mounted safeties and DA triggers. I see no need to use it there. Once any of them are in my hand, they are ready to shoot. The thought process for the safety was dealt with on the draw, and it really wasn't a thought at all. And once the guns are in my hand, my finger is along the trigger guard.
If my finger drifts into the trigger guard and I somehow don't know it, I guess it is what it is, but in about a bazillion rounds of shooting from a holster, I can not for the life of me, ever remember a round going off, that I didn't intend to let go (not saying I didn't let an extra round or to go when shooting in bursts, but they seemed appropriate at the time
), and Im not talking about always just standing there and shooting from a static position. Is it possible it could the very next time out, absolutely, but I find that it happening, is probably about the same odds of me dying from Covid, using the "real" numbers.
If someone grabs your carry weapon away from you, a manual safety on a weapon type not expected to have one could give you a second chance.
As I said earlier, a solution for that if it bothers you, is one of the guns with a mag safety. As much as I detest them, that would probably be a good option for someone who is likely to be in a wrestling match with some who might want to take it, retention training or not. Its an option, but in reality, how much of a threat is it really?
