357 carbines and rifles?

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357 and 44 carbines are great.

Sure is entertaining to Read- Skeeter Skeletons and Doug Wesson exploits of Mule deer,Antelope,Bear and other Large and small game animals being successfully and ethically taken…. With Excellent praise for the 357 Magnum cartridge. Firsthand From the Horses mouth knowledge of a Hunter/Marksman praise.

Then see argument on forums of modern opinion about the “Wee Little barely Usefull rodent Round” that the Magnum has been reduced to by some.

It truly shows some people’s size of intellectual observation- and How they simply state what they don’t know about.

Good Guy I know has successfully taken 6 deer at ranges from 80-130 yards ethically with a 10”-14” Specialty Pistol using Book upper loaded charges and a 125gr xtp. I’ve asked about all of him experiences and he has informed me “I was unaware it shouldn’t work well” . I just laugh and Ask him how the venison is
 
I mentioned that the bore on my new Henry all weather appeared to have some leading following my first outing with the wad cutter hollow points
I have soaked the bore a couple times with hoppes #9 and followed up with a bronze bore brush. Seems to be a little better each to me but still not shiny new. A little disturbing. When running just a patch threw it feels a little gritty.
I have heard different reports on these rifles that the bore is the same chrome finish as is the rest of the rifle. I can’t imagine this is true
As the the exterior of the rifle is quite rough
I would hope this situation was just caused by the ammunition (lead wadcutter hollow points)
I plan on more soaking with hoppes and follow up with the bronze brush
Any advice would be appreciated
 
Oh and the K frame 3” S$W I have with the 16” Marlin CP fits very nicely in a Smal day pack when I take the stock off.
A Lee Scissor Press, Weights from wheels and simple mold plus 1 lb powder ,some brass and Primers…. I could go a Long long time with Defense, small game, Deer and what not of needed.

Not bad for a old cowboy… Or modern outdoorsman
 
Damn Fellas- that’s a lot of post since I resurrected the thread the other day.
Goes to show how fond we are of the 357 carbines.

Ps-how about some hunting photos- info on ammo and stories. Deer, Groundhog,Squirrel! Or whatever
 
Here's my very simple armadillo slaying rig,,,
H&R .357 Handi-Rifle when it sported a 3-9x40 Leupold Rifleman.

HR-357.jpg

It didn't start out being a 'dillo rifle,,,
I originally bought it really just on a whim.

I had already owned an H&R .22 Sportster with a 3-9x?? Bushnell Banner,,,
I saw this rifle/scope combo in a pawn shop for a mere $225.00,,,
I bought it as a "companion" for the rimfire set-up.

It's an OCD thing. :p

But as it turned out I actually used the rifle a lot one summer,,,
A dear friend of mine was having a huge 'dillo problem.

Every dawn a herd of them would appear in her garden,,,
This is her main source of food so she asked me if I could help her out.

So every morning before I went to work I hit her back porch,,,
And defended her garden against the ravaging hoards.

Shoot a 'dillo, or two, or three and the rest would scatter,,,
Shooting them with a 110 grain HP round,,,
They would literally explode.

She gathered them up and tossed them in a small pit,,,
Then burned the carcasses to the bone.

Over that summer I easily shot 50 to 60 or more of them,,,
Then one day they abruptly stopped appearing.

That was back around 2007-2008,,,
I haven't fired it even once since.

I gave the .22 Sportster to the son of a good friend,,,
Took the Bushnell off of it and put it on the .357 Handi-Rifle.

The Leupold scope now sits happily on a Mauser es340b.

With a heavier bullet such as a 180 grain soft nose,,,
I wouldn't hesitate trying to take a deer with it.

Aarond

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AARON, Read Doug Wesson’s adventures in Wyoming almost 100 yrs ago.

He Didn’t hesitate trying to take Elk,Bear,Moose…. With a handgun

Ps- You can ream chamber to Max, and have a multi caliber lead dispenser for all sorts of vermin
 
Oregon Trail: Try All Copper Chore Boy kitchen scrubs for lead removal. They work better than the old standard Lewis Lead Remover. Use an old pair of scissors to cut a small piece of the copper chore boy, then wrap it around an old cleaning bore brush. It only takes a couple of passes to remove leading. I've used them for years on my rifles and handguns. Be sure to get the All Copper ones. Most that you'll find in Walmart etc. are steel with a thin copper plating. Not Good...they'll damage your bore. If you search Walmart etc., take a kitchen magnet with you to identify the copper plated steel ones and avoid them. I found my All Copper Chore Boys on Amazon. A sleeve of them will last you a decade.

Using Hoppe's and a bore brush will never get it all out. Get the Chore Boy and be done with it. Best regards, Rod
 
Most that you'll find in Walmart etc. are steel with a thin copper plating. Not Good...
Take that magnet to the store..... honest.
and prepare to be irritated by what you find.
:cuss:


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Got a couple Marlins - 1894C and a 1894CP. I usually shoot 38 Spl out of them. At this point they are just range toys I have not hunted with either of them. I do have a 1894 in 44 mag that I have used to kill deer. Marlin 357s 1.jpg
 
Oregon Trail: Try All Copper Chore Boy kitchen scrubs for lead removal. They work better than the old standard Lewis Lead Remover. Use an old pair of scissors to cut a small piece of the copper chore boy, then wrap it around an old cleaning bore brush. It only takes a couple of passes to remove leading. I've used them for years on my rifles and handguns. Be sure to get the All Copper ones. Most that you'll find in Walmart etc. are steel with a thin copper plating. Not Good...they'll damage your bore. If you search Walmart etc., take a kitchen magnet with you to identify the copper plated steel ones and avoid them. I found my All Copper Chore Boys on Amazon. A sleeve of them will last you a decade.

Using Hoppe's and a bore brush will never get it all out. Get the Chore Boy and be done with it. Best regards, Rod
 
Wish I did. I have one in .44 mag. Not knocking it, I love the crap outta it. Only thing is, I have a .357 hand gun. I don't think I'd want a .44 mag hand gun. My S&W 686 is about all I need, so it would be cool to have a matched pair, but I got the rifle first, and had already stocked up ammo for it. Now... it would be impossible to swap over to a .357 and expect to be able to find a stockpile of .357 for the rifle, whereas I just happen to have plenty of leftover .38 from my old model 10 for the handgun, and I wouldn't want to handicap the rifle with the lower powered .30 rounds unless I had to... so my pistol / rifle combo doesn't match.
 
Wish I did. I have one in .44 mag. Not knocking it, I love the crap outta it. Only thing is, I have a .357 hand gun. I don't think I'd want a .44 mag hand gun. My S&W 686 is about all I need, so it would be cool to have a matched pair, but I got the rifle first, and had already stocked up ammo for it. Now... it would be impossible to swap over to a .357 and expect to be able to find a stockpile of .357 for the rifle, whereas I just happen to have plenty of leftover .38 from my old model 10 for the handgun, and I wouldn't want to handicap the rifle with the lower powered .30 rounds unless I had to... so my pistol / rifle combo doesn't match.
I wonder what’s the percentage of actual 44 magnums that get shot out of revolvers. 44 rounds of magnum out of a three inch 629 had me pining for something special or even Russian. I saved the last six rounds just to have them and went short brass from there on out.

44 Mag is ridiculous
 
Fan of the 357 carbines myself. Have a pre safety blued JM 1894C, JM stainless 1894CSS, Ruger 77/357, IMI pump action timberwolf and a 357 Handi rifle.
 
Dang Cek- I passed on a Timberwolf once… regrettable. Yet what I got instead eventually I traded towards a Jm Css.

o 44spl-
I Love my 44 spl, have many… small L frame and a few 44 mag N frame.

Yet having the ability to download between the two with 10gr of Unique or around 17gr 2400 is the Sweet spot. Rediculously excellent

it’s on par with Unique 6.5 grains for the 158gr Tre Fi Seven….. or heavy 180 grainers and middle of the road charges….Just a nice shooter
 
"Bigdog357,

Got a couple Marlins - 1894C and a 1894CP. I usually shoot 38 Spl out of them. At this point they are just range toys I have not hunted with either of them. I do have a 1894 in 44 mag that I have used to kill deer.


How does your 1894 cp shoot? With a 158gr xtpFp and Max charge of little gun, I was very surprised to see 100 yards with the Buckhorn factory sites-To be very accurate. Easy to get paper plate accurate first time I shot it. It was Infired when I bought mine-few years ago. I also have its 16” twin in 45 colt. And cranked up 250xtps really get moving around 1700 with 296/h110. It’s about equivalent of a 454 handgun
With those two- Marlins, Mice to Moose. Yet I fancy the Cp 357.
 
I have a Marlin 1894C (18-1/2" barrel) bought new in 1981 and a Winchester/Miroku 1873 (20" barrel) bought new a couple years ago. Both are chambered in 357 Magnum and are great rifles to shoot.

The Marlin has a micro-groove barrel and cast bullets are difficult to get to shoot well. So I usually only load jacketed for it.
 
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