People pay that for a high end 1911 all the time, the Colt SAA is a very well made piece of history.
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People pay that for a high end 1911 all the time, the Colt SAA is a very well made piece of history.
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And some folks say Colts are expensive!!
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/73/751/korth-sport-revolver-22-lr-22-mag
Scarce and Desirable Cased Willi Korth Sport Model .22 Magnum Double Action Revolver with Extra Cylinder
Price Realized: $8,625
Exactly, and they are affordable. Think what it would cost today to make a revolver today to those standards.
Agreed, lots of well known companies have gone through bankruptcies.
And some folks say Colts are expensive!!
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/73/751/korth-sport-revolver-22-lr-22-mag
Scarce and Desirable Cased Willi Korth Sport Model .22 Magnum Double Action Revolver with Extra Cylinder
Price Realized: $8,625
You can get a 1960s Korth .22 for around $2K, it will spoil you for any other revolver. Willi Korth himself was involved in the making of all of them back then which is kind of cool in itself, kind of like owning a 1911 JM Browning worked on.
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Realistically, it doesn't matter. It's not about logic or reason.
Everyone writes a story with their life. Very few will write a new story - something unique in Human history - those people are so few that they are remembered because their story hasn't been written before. Sam Colt was one of those people. The rest of us write a variation on a theme - the same old story told a different way. Some folks write a variation of the story, "You Be You And I'll Be Me And That's A Good Way To Live." Other folks write a variation of that familiar old classic, "The Only Right Way To Do Things And Why You're Always Wrong."
Colts are nice guns. I like the ones I have. Don't really care who disagrees as long as they stay out of my business and stop the incessant lecturing.
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Thanks but, I can get a couple of nice condition Colt Officers Model Match .22LR revolvers for around half that - if I want one. I'd rather have the Colts.
Have you had a Korth? I have a Colt OMM .22 also and it doesn't compare, it's like comparing a Wilson or other high end 1911 to a Colt 1911.
It does matter, because you're judging a gun on the requirements of a very small percentage of handgun owners. If you want to say Colt isn't the best for competitive shooting, then I agree. The average shooter will never wear out a Colt.
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That percentage has no bearing on my Colt hater status. This thread is about Colt haters and I count myself among that number. The cylinder release is near the top of my list of reasons why I am a Colt hater, among a modest list of other reasons. Some related to revolvers and some not.
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Life is too short to hate anything. Hating a company or an inanimate object is simply ridiculous.
Actually, I just kinda hate the word "hate." As Maya Angelou said, "Hate has caused a lot of problems in this world but hasn't solved one yet."
Anyway, this thread reminds me of some of the dedicated Jeep-worshiping guys I know -- they hate Toyota 4Runners, talk smack about any four-wheeler that ain't a Jeep (or the most idiotic mantra, "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand"), but I've come to believe it stems from them knowing in their hearts that their chosen vehicle is not the best at everything...
Actually, I just kinda hate the word "hate." As Maya Angelou said, "Hate has caused a lot of problems in this world but hasn't solved one yet."
Anyway, this thread reminds me of some of the dedicated Jeep-worshiping guys I know -- they hate Toyota 4Runners, talk smack about any four-wheeler that ain't a Jeep (or the most idiotic mantra, "It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand"), but I've come to believe it stems from them knowing in their hearts that their chosen vehicle is not the best at everything...
Our "thing" doesn't have to be the best to enjoy it.
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My favorite 1911A1 is an Army surplus Remington-Rand. It rattles, looks like it’s been through a couple of wars - which it has - and I can mostly hit the barn door from the far stall. Mostly. I wouldn’t trade it for all the $2000 fancy pants whatchacallits ever made. It’s got character and history. Can’t buy that.
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So the answer is no, you haven't shot a Korth, which makes me wonder how you can compare it to the Colt.
You Remington-Rand is probably worth half a Korth.
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Okey dokey. Enjoy what you have and be grateful for it.
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Agreed, we are all entitled to our individual opinions, and I don't think I have tried to turn anyone in the thread into a Colt hater, if I did that it was not my intention. I am a Colt hater for a variety of reasons some shared here as related to the revolver sub-form. I do my best not to look down on the Colt fans even while I look down on their revolvers and the company. Colt has an important place in the history of this country and firearms development. I can appreciate that history and still not like or want to own them. I am not a collector and that is the only value I see for Colt revolvers and my current uses for firearms.
I fully support your right to hold any opinion you choose. You do you to the best of your ability. We don’t have to agree but we really ought to be able to disagree agreeably.
Awesome sig line you got there.
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Exactly. It’s like reloading, too. Because you’re involved with a high-round-count sport your kind of reloading is gonna be different than a season hunter and recreation shooter. That doesn’t make either one better or worse right or wrong, just different. Different’s fine n dandy.
Be well and watch them flood waters, cuz.
To add to my post #32, Colt revolvers in my history have been out of my price range. A few year ago, a friend of mine was selling his Colt DA/SA revolver, I forget exactly which model but it was not the high end Python. I did not want to embarrass him with the price I was willing to pay.
Recently, funds are not as much of an issue as in the past and I'd be interested in having a Colt SAA. But, I'm not willing to scour the gun stores or internet sites to find one. I did buy a new production Python and am kind of looking for an Anaconda.
1911's are another story. I've liked Colt 1911's since the 1980's. The new ones are not as nicely finished as the 1980's production but they still perform well. I prefer the Series 70 versions but I have a few Series 80 1911's. As others have said, the 1980 plus/minus a few years are good Mark IV, Series 70 examples of the 1911 Model.
I do not hate any brand of handgun firearm. I just do not care for firearms that do not suit my purposes.
Recently, funds are not as much of an issue as in the past and I'd be interested in having a Colt SAA. But, I'm not willing to scour the gun stores or internet sites to find one. I did buy a new production Python and am kind of looking for an Anaconda.
1911's are another story. I've liked Colt 1911's since the 1980's. The new ones are not as nicely finished as the 1980's production but they still perform well. I prefer the Series 70 versions but I have a few Series 80 1911's. As others have said, the 1980 plus/minus a few years are good Mark IV, Series 70 examples of the 1911 Model.
I do not hate any brand of handgun firearm. I just do not care for firearms that do not suit my purposes.
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I have to say, if you "hate" Colt, you're not much of a revolver enthusiast.
People keep saying Colt discontinued revolvers. False. They stopped producing DA revolvers but never dropped the SAA from production.
People keep saying Colt discontinued revolvers. False. They stopped producing DA revolvers but never dropped the SAA from production.
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nailed it
nailed it
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My first "real" handgun was a Colt Diamondback .22 with a 2 1/2" barrel - it was an 8th grade graduation present. I liked it and it shot well - but I eventually traded it for an M70 .30/06. Wish I still had that Diamondback, but I've done a lot of hunting with that M70 and placed several critters in the SCI record book with it so I can't feel too bad.
I now have a K-22 - the trigger is better both SA and DA and it fits my hand better. It's also more accurate, but that may be a function of barrel length.
Colt revolver barrels always had a good reputation, but note that there was a time when Smolts/Smythons were popular - people took an S&W revolver and screwed on a Colt barrel, which isn't anywhere near as easy as you'd think. But it says a LOT about which revolver ACTION was considered to be superior. And revolver games were always dominated by S&W at the top levels - people who were well heeled and would buy whatever advantage they thought would help them into the winner's circle always (OK, make that ALMOST always) chose S&W.
Finally, though it wasn't a revolver, I later acquired a new Colt Mk IV Series 70 Government Model jammamatic, and my experience with Colt's execrable NON-service under warranty soured me on the Colt brand forever.
I now have a K-22 - the trigger is better both SA and DA and it fits my hand better. It's also more accurate, but that may be a function of barrel length.
Colt revolver barrels always had a good reputation, but note that there was a time when Smolts/Smythons were popular - people took an S&W revolver and screwed on a Colt barrel, which isn't anywhere near as easy as you'd think. But it says a LOT about which revolver ACTION was considered to be superior. And revolver games were always dominated by S&W at the top levels - people who were well heeled and would buy whatever advantage they thought would help them into the winner's circle always (OK, make that ALMOST always) chose S&W.
Finally, though it wasn't a revolver, I later acquired a new Colt Mk IV Series 70 Government Model jammamatic, and my experience with Colt's execrable NON-service under warranty soured me on the Colt brand forever.
For sure on the longer barrel length. The Diamondback didn't have as good of an action or finish as the Python, and sold for less when new. Built on a different frame too.
Finally, though it wasn't a revolver, I later acquired a new Colt Mk IV Series 70 Government Model jammamatic, and my experience with Colt's execrable NON-service under warranty soured me on the Colt brand forever.
I like Colt, but my last two 1911s from them had issues.
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Still love the Diamondback. And Colt's 1911s... (I must lead a charmed life -- never had a bad Colt gun.)
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