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Mark_Mark said:
I’m voting out of money!

Buy Cool Guns people! Primers will follow!
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I'm at a selling time of life, not a buying time of life. Next cool gun I sell is going to be a 1968 Colt Huntsman .22LR. Might sell a few rifles, too, but I think the demand is still too low for anything but ARK's. Most of my rifles are botl actions. Maybe I'll put the old Lyman's scope back on the Remington 81 .35 and sell it. I haven't taken it to the field in decades.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
I'm at a selling time of life, not a buying time of life. Next cool gun I sell is going to be a 1968 Colt Huntsman .22LR. Might sell a few rifles, too, but I think the demand is still too low for anything but ARK's. Most of my rifles are botl actions. Maybe I'll put the old Lyman's scope back on the Remington 81 .35 and sell it. I haven't taken it to the field in decades.
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Decades! sell time, pass it alone to the next generation
 
This morning Cabelas in Dundee MI had 4 bricks of federal Large magnum pistol match primers for $75 each and 2 bricks of CCI LPP for $64 each, limit of 1 brick . They also had twelve 1 lb. Cans of H110. It was behind the counter not on the shelves.
 
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Hartkopf said:
Small Pistol Primers | Reloading Primers | Bullet Primers | MidwayUSA

Midway has had three flavors of primers in stock all day. That's a good sign that people are tired of paying $75+, plus hazmat and shipping. Or it's a bad sign everybody is running out of money.
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Thanks for the links. I am getting back into reloading after many years away from it. Yeah, bad timing, got it…it’s a long story.

Anyway, I bought a thousand each of the large pistol primers. Cost me $200 delivered, so $0.10 per primer. These will be for .44 special and magnum ammo, so $.10 is still great deal vice factory ammo.

Like commercial ammo, I’ll add more as prices regulate and buy in bulk when prices fall. I’m thinking $0.05 will be the new normal but I don’t think we’ll see that for a while. While I didn’t reload, I did follow component prices.
 
Get on the reloading discord. You'll get automatic alerts when primers come in stock. You can actually choose alerts for type of primers, powder, projectiles equipment.

Download Discord and here is the link

discord.gg/reloading
 
PERSPECTIVE:

Let’s assume that

1: you have all your reloading gear or access to a friend who has all the gear and you just need the components to reload ammo. And

2: you have your empty brass

By today’s prices (9MM)

- 1000 primers: $100
- .6 lb powder: $50 * .6 = $30
- 1,000 115 gr xtreme $100

Even at my exaggerated prices for powder and bullets, you are getting 1,000 rounds of ammunition for $230, which is around half the price of loaded ammo today.
 
velocette said:
Well, they wuz.
Was leafing through Midway and decided to look at small pistol primers. All appeared to be out ot stock. Then I clicked on "in stock" and lo and behold CCI 500 SPP in stock. $75.00 + shipping and hazmat = $108.00. One pack of 1000 per customer. Ordered my 1000 & told my shootin buddy about the primers, 10 minutes later he had his 1000 on order. 10 minutes later than that, Midway is sold out.
So I will be occupied soon reloading for my .38 spl & 9mm.
Who knows when the next batch of primers will become available?
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This is exactly why I started making my own primers (LRP).
 
Buzznrose said:
PERSPECTIVE:

Let’s assume that

1: you have all your reloading gear or access to a friend who has all the gear and you just need the components to reload ammo. And

2: you have your empty brass

By today’s prices (9MM)

- 1000 primers: $100
- .6 lb powder: $50 * .6 = $30
- 1,000 115 gr xtreme $100

Even at my exaggerated prices for powder and bullets, you are getting 1,000 rounds of ammunition for $230, which is around half the price of loaded ammo today.
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But you're talking 9mm.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
But you're talking 9mm.
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I used 9MM as an example to illustrate he worse case scenario, as in least savings.

Most other cartridges would amount to a greater savings, since those rounds cost more to buy these days. My point is that even at $0.10 per primer, it makes sense to buy them if needed to load ammo.
 
Buzznrose said:
I used 9MM as an example to illustrate he worse case scenario, as in least savings.

Most other cartridges would amount to a greater savings, since those rounds cost more to buy these days. My point is that even at $0.10 per primer, it makes sense to buy them if needed to load ammo.
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Your figures were $230 per thousand for 9mm reload cost which is terrible by 2019 standards but I see your point because now, 1000 loaded rounds of 9mm is aprox $460. Loaded 9mm cost would need to get cut in half for your component investment to be “waisted.” (labor for reloading is always “waisted” but nothing new in the argument).


I will continue to dollar cost average my component purchases just for this reason. Even with the worst case example of 9mm, loaded ammo has a long way to fall to complete with reloaders. Stuff like 44Spec and 44 Mag is a no brainer in favor of reloading right now.
 
Hartkopf said:
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Your figures were $230 per thousand for 9mm reload cost which is terrible by 2019 standards but I see your point because now, 1000 loaded rounds of 9mm is aprox $460. Loaded 9mm cost would need to get cut in half for your component investment to be “waisted.” (labor for reloading is always “waisted” but nothing new in the argument).


I will continue to dollar cost average my component purchases just for this reason. Even with the worst case example of 9mm, loaded ammo has a long way to fall to complete with reloaders. Stuff like 44Spec and 44 Mag is a no brainer in favor of reloading right now.
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In your dollar cost averaging will you include equipment costs over time? I’m not thinking of some difficult amortization, but for me, since I started reloading recently (September 2019), I include 100% of the amount spent on all my equipment in addition to components. A couple thousand $ for equipment I’d say off hand.

So, for me, my 45ACP and 9mm rounds are costing about $.15 each without equipment costs and about $.50 each with. As soon as I run out of my 2019 components the costs will go through the roof.

And you’re right labor costs aren’t included especially if one looks at them as entertainment (otherwise it’s like sweat equity in real estate).
 
Buzznrose said:
I used 9MM as an example to illustrate he worse case scenario, as in least savings.

Most other cartridges would amount to a greater savings, since those rounds cost more to buy these days. My point is that even at $0.10 per primer, it makes sense to buy them if needed to load ammo.
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Couldn't agree with you more .... except for one thing.

We all, around here at least, are well equipped to reload. I assume we have buckets of range brass and plenty of the three Ps ... primers, powders and pills.

Are we prorating our equipment? Presses, dies, scales, loading blocks, tumblers and vibrators, tumbling media, stands and benches, etc., etc., etc.

Hopefully most of us paid for our equipment investments long ago through cost savings realized by reloading ... but for the new guys out there, and there are A LOT of them, I'm not sure they're enjoying as much savings, per round, as is being touted.
 
CQB45ACP said:
In your dollar cost averaging will you include equipment costs over time? I’m not thinking of some difficult amortization, but for me, since I started reloading recently (September 2019), I include 100% of the amount spent on all my equipment in addition to components. A couple thousand $ for equipment I’d say off hand.

So, for me, my 45ACP and 9mm rounds are costing about $.15 each without equipment costs and about $.50 each with. As soon as I run out of my 2019 components the costs will go through the roof.

And you’re right labor costs aren’t included especially if one looks at them as entertainment (otherwise it’s like sweat equity in real estate).
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I also started in late ‘19. I figured my first year of reloading paid for my equipment (especially with all the 44MAG I made) so now I don’t worry about figuring in that cost. A press should last forever so I won’t have to worry about much other than a scale which I’m sure will die at a bad time.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
Couldn't agree with you more .... except for one thing.

We all, around here at least, are well equipped to reload. I assume we have buckets of range brass and plenty of the three Ps ... primers, powders and pills.

Are we prorating our equipment? Presses, dies, scales, loading blocks, tumblers and vibrators, tumbling media, stands and benches, etc., etc., etc.

Hopefully most of us paid for our equipment investments long ago through cost savings realized by reloading ... but for the new guys out there, and there are A LOT of them, I'm not sure they're enjoying as much savings, per round, as is being touted.
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My post immediately above yours says same basic things.

But, let me disabuse your assumption about range brass…I have had to buy ALL 45ACP brass and most 9mm since I began reloading. Here in DC suburbs/exurbs there are no ranges with free brass. The cheapest I ever paid for 45brass is $.07 per before the panic and $.10 since.
 
As near as I can tell, my component costs for powder, primers and pills is running about 75 cents a round, or $15 for a box of 20. That is large rifle. Was in the local farm and home store the other day, and for the first time in about 18 months, I noticed they had one single box of 308 ammo on the shelf. Hornady American Whitetail, loaded with same 150 Interlocks I am using. Price on the box was $29.99.

So if I can find the components to reload, I can always have a supply of ammo that is probably equal or better than factory, and half the cost. I'm all in for supporting Hornady but going through the back door from now on.
 
CQB45ACP said:
My post immediately above yours says same basic things.

But, let me disabuse your assumption about range brass…I have had to buy ALL 45ACP brass and most 9mm since I began reloading. Here in DC suburbs/exurbs there are no ranges with free brass. The cheapest I ever paid for 45brass is $.07 per before the panic and $.10 since.
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Yeah I feel your pain. I've got friends in Alexandria, Dunkirk and Bowie and I hear from them and their lack-of-brass woes all the time. Matter of fact I'll be taking my Bowie friend a bucket of range brass when I go-up-to Assateague for the annual Sika hunt next month.

Yesterday I bought 9mm range brass for $2 a pound. I bought a bunch of 45-70 for $5 a pound (and was happy to get it) and I bought 45 ACP brass for $3.50 a pound. I spent a little over $100 bucks total just on brass just to have something to do for a little while because I have just about filled-up and stashed away all of my brass that, not long ago, I never imagined I would ever go-through.

I'm still desperate for 350 Legend brass, 450 Bushmaster brass, 300 PRC brass and more 45-70 brass. They only had 9 pounds of 45-70 brass yesterday and I bought it all.

And the guys told me something interesting. They said there is such an uptick in reloaders over the course of these past two years that waaaaay more shooters, at both their indoor and outdoor ranges, are picking--up their own brass and taking it with them rather than sweeping it up and dumping it in the range buckets. They said their range bucket take is probably down more than 50% ... and that's huge if you stop and think about it.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
Yeah I feel your pain. I've got friends in Alexandria, Dunkirk and Bowie and I hear from them and their lack-of-brass woes all the time. Matter of fact I'll be taking my Bowie friend a bucket of range brass when I go-up-to Assateague for the annual Sika hunt next month.

Yesterday I bought 9mm range brass for $2 a pound. I bought a bunch of 45-70 for $5 a pound (and was happy to get it) and I bought 45 ACP brass for $3.50 a pound. I spent a little over $100 bucks total just on brass just to have something to do for a little while because I have just about filled-up and stashed away all of my brass that, not long ago, I never imagined I would ever go-through.

I'm still desperate for 350 Legend brass, 450 Bushmaster brass, 300 PRC brass and more 45-70 brass. They only had 9 pounds of 45-70 brass yesterday and I bought it all.

And the guys told me something interesting. They said there is such an uptick in reloaders over the course of these past two years that waaaaay more shooters, at both their indoor and outdoor ranges, are picking--up their own brass and taking it with them rather than sweeping it up and dumping it in the range buckets. They said their range bucket take is probably down more than 50% ... and that's huge if you stop and think about it.
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Well you’re a good friend. Interesting. I wonder if that’s why the nra HQ range stopped selling used brass? Seem to have same number of shooters but I’ll pay closer attention from now on to see if they’re scrounging.
 
CQB45ACP said:
In your dollar cost averaging will you include equipment costs over time? I’m not thinking of some difficult amortization, but for me, since I started reloading recently (September 2019), I include 100% of the amount spent on all my equipment in addition to components. A couple thousand $ for equipment I’d say off hand.

So, for me, my 45ACP and 9mm rounds are costing about $.15 each without equipment costs and about $.50 each with. As soon as I run out of my 2019 components the costs will go through the roof.

And you’re right labor costs aren’t included especially if one looks at them as entertainment (otherwise it’s like sweat equity in real estate).
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I started loading in June 2018, and my start up cost was about $400. That was everything needed to load 45acp including powder, primers, bullets, and new brass. So my first loaded round cost $400, and the next 499 rounds were free (not counting my labor). In all seriousness, it took about 1200 rounds for me to break even on equipment costs, and I no longer factor in the original equipment cost. I have since added dies and upgraded some equipment, and when I've done this I figure how many rounds I have to load to pay for the new equipment with my savings over factory rounds.

My most recent purchase was a set of 480 Ruger dies. About 80 rounds loaded covered the cost of the dies.

CQB45ACP said:
My post immediately above yours says same basic things.

But, let me disabuse your assumption about range brass…I have had to buy ALL 45ACP brass and most 9mm since I began reloading. Here in DC suburbs/exurbs there are no ranges with free brass. The cheapest I ever paid for 45brass is $.07 per before the panic and $.10 since.
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When I shot at Elite in Manassas they would let me recover my brass as long as it didn't go forward of the line. The RO's would generally sweep brass my way once they knew I was reloading, and as long as I didn't get stupid or greedy they didn't say anything about me picking up a little extra. I never picked up anything I didn't load for, and always swept my area and and dumped what I didn't need in the brass buckets.

chris
 
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