So...reading and listening to tales at the gunshop?
Best “One *Revolver* To Do Everything”
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UncleEd
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Mr. Mosin,
Just so the mentally challenged monkey
doesn't use too big a rock.
Just so the mentally challenged monkey
doesn't use too big a rock.
Without experience, how can you judge credibility...popular opinion?
ThomasT
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Yep. And that happens way too often around here. The only comments I trust are posted by people with real hands on experience. The rest are just jabber boxes.
Pat Riot
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I actually thought I found the perfect all around revolver when I bought my S&W 60 Pro. It was very accurate with numerous.38 and .357 loads. It was light but not too light. I thought it was nearly perfect as a woods and fishing carry gun. It was a pleasure to carry while walking, driving and riding my motorcycle and was fairly easy to conceal.
Full house 158 grain .357 loads were quite invigorating but not as bad as one might think.
Unfortunately, the gun had issues, mostly the issues were a sloppy fix by a sloppy repairman at S&W and I sold it after they finally fixed it.
Does this taint my attitude about owning more new or old S&W’s? For a short time it did, but I am over it. I may even get another 60 Pro someday.
I really like Smith & Wesson revolvers and yes, I am a bit biased, but I am biased knowing full well that I have very little experience with DA revolvers from Ruger and Colt - I own a DS, which make me far from being an authority on them.
I love Ruger single action revolvers, which if you want solid as rock revolvers you can’t go wrong there.
I would ask the OP why not consider a Blackhawk or a Vaquero in .357? Better yet, a 4 5/8” Blackhawk .357 / 9mm convertible.
It’s just a thought.
Full house 158 grain .357 loads were quite invigorating but not as bad as one might think.
Unfortunately, the gun had issues, mostly the issues were a sloppy fix by a sloppy repairman at S&W and I sold it after they finally fixed it.
Does this taint my attitude about owning more new or old S&W’s? For a short time it did, but I am over it. I may even get another 60 Pro someday.
I really like Smith & Wesson revolvers and yes, I am a bit biased, but I am biased knowing full well that I have very little experience with DA revolvers from Ruger and Colt - I own a DS, which make me far from being an authority on them.
I love Ruger single action revolvers, which if you want solid as rock revolvers you can’t go wrong there.
I would ask the OP why not consider a Blackhawk or a Vaquero in .357? Better yet, a 4 5/8” Blackhawk .357 / 9mm convertible.
It’s just a thought.
S&W 60-9 and 60-10, Damn fine revolvers! Rite up there. Shot a many 180xtp Warm reloads out of it, and a well known Gunsmith recently inspected it for me stating it was in great condition. Tough little guns, tougher than most give em credit for.
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I love single actions- bit my teeth on em. But this needs to be easily concealed
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So . . . are ya sayin' you have or have not personally tuned a Ruger revolver?
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I redact my statement.
A Ruger New Model Convertible .45 in 4 5/8” barrel.
Upgraded with a detent system for cylinder indexing, or Power Customs old style lock work hammer and trigger kit.
Can be loaded up to and including +P 300 grain bear stoppers, all the way down to light .45 ACPs for range work. Or what cutters. Incredible versatility, no lack in power for deer to boar and even bear defense. A good single, wielded by a man so properly trained, will serve just as well for defense work today as it did back then as well. I firmly believe if you look at the data we have that a proper single action revolver will take care of business in that regard, IF the user puts in the training.
As for concealed and carry, yes it can be done. The user must find an appropriate holster, and dress around the gun, but it can be done especially with a 4 5/8” gunfighter’s barrel.
A Ruger New Model Convertible .45 in 4 5/8” barrel.
Upgraded with a detent system for cylinder indexing, or Power Customs old style lock work hammer and trigger kit.
Can be loaded up to and including +P 300 grain bear stoppers, all the way down to light .45 ACPs for range work. Or what cutters. Incredible versatility, no lack in power for deer to boar and even bear defense. A good single, wielded by a man so properly trained, will serve just as well for defense work today as it did back then as well. I firmly believe if you look at the data we have that a proper single action revolver will take care of business in that regard, IF the user puts in the training.
As for concealed and carry, yes it can be done. The user must find an appropriate holster, and dress around the gun, but it can be done especially with a 4 5/8” gunfighter’s barrel.
“Easily concealed” makes me think SP101, for quite a few folks. I am right at six feet tall, and once upon a time, had wide shoulders. Not quite so defined shoulders and lats any more, but I can conceal a GP100. We each select what conceals well, on our persons.
For some folks, balance is important. A GP100, L-Frame, or Python, on one hip, is a lot of weight, on one side. A pair of SP101s enables spreading that weight, in a balanced way. I have done this, especially during the 2002 to 2006 time frame. (Plus, a third SP101, in an Alessi ankle rig, was not unusual. I lived near the area I patrolled, so, encountering unhappy “clients” was not a far-fetched scenario.)
Another advantage of an SP101 is that one can get really high on the grip, especially with a spur-less hammer version, and fire heavy loads, with very little muzzle rise, due to the low height of the bore axis over the axis of the forearm bones. Simple physics.
For some folks, balance is important. A GP100, L-Frame, or Python, on one hip, is a lot of weight, on one side. A pair of SP101s enables spreading that weight, in a balanced way. I have done this, especially during the 2002 to 2006 time frame. (Plus, a third SP101, in an Alessi ankle rig, was not unusual. I lived near the area I patrolled, so, encountering unhappy “clients” was not a far-fetched scenario.)
Another advantage of an SP101 is that one can get really high on the grip, especially with a spur-less hammer version, and fire heavy loads, with very little muzzle rise, due to the low height of the bore axis over the axis of the forearm bones. Simple physics.
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Nope. Never tuned one. And I resemble that remark
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Not saying it can’t be done, and I agree with you- my one “full size” gun choice would be a SA revolver. I’m just not willing to dress around one to conceal it.
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Same with a Centennial Smith ?
Pat Riot
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@Mr. Mosin
It seems Sportsman’s Warehouse has Rugers in stock, at least here in California, and they aren’t stupidly high priced.
https://www.sportsmans.com/search?q=Ruger+revolver:relevance&page=0&&pageSize=20
Also, in picking different cities across the US they list the same revolvers so I am guessing you could order a revolver on line and have it sent to the FFL of your liking.
It seems Sportsman’s Warehouse has Rugers in stock, at least here in California, and they aren’t stupidly high priced.
https://www.sportsmans.com/search?q=Ruger+revolver:relevance&page=0&&pageSize=20
Also, in picking different cities across the US they list the same revolvers so I am guessing you could order a revolver on line and have it sent to the FFL of your liking.
Pat Riot
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Oh, no, ve have a vide zelection of ze revolvers to choose from…as long a zay meet mit ze Emporers “safe handgun list”.
Oh, no, ve have a vide zelection of ze revolvers to choose from…as long a zay meet mit ze Emporers “safe handgun list”.
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Very well said WC. My thoughts exactly and make it stainless steel for use back where the weather can be problematic a week at a time...I.E. a Smith M66...no lock and old enough to have a butter smooth DA trigger.
Or make it a Smith M19...blued perfection in almost any dash version. The one below is a 19-7 and is as smooth as they get. Not many rounds through it when I found it...so must have had a bit extra fitting in Springfield when new. The M66 is an LEO turn in...butterrrrrrrrr smoooooth and super accurate. Love those Mikulek combat grips for DA work, though I buy smooth ones next time. Long strings of DA with checkering wears me thin in places on the dominant hand...
A close 2nd might be a Smith M69 in .44 Mag...plenty of smack with the big boy rounds, but at 38 oz., comfortable with Skeeter's old standby [950 fps & 240 gr LSWC]. 7.5 gr of Unique will buy you that in Special brass, or 8.3 gr of Unique in Magnum. Rod
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stonebuster
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I thought the same thing and love my 2 3/4" & 3" Speed Sixes. I believe 357 Term's SS is 2 3/4" tapered(light) barrel. I don't expect any of my three Six Series guns will need parts in my lifetime. I also prefer a Six Series, K frame or GP100 size for a "do everything revolver".Who in the world lets go of a Speed Six? Especially a 3" version???
Yup, a lot of folks clamoring for the checkering forced the inclusion. Sometimes you just have to trust the original design...it was built for speed, not for beauty
stonebuster
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It may "tolerate anything you can fit in the cylinder" better than your hands can after a box or two of 357 magnum through a 26-27oz SP. At least that's been my personal experience. 38+p is a breeze/357 not so much IMO. Even Hickock45 said 0uch! when shooting a lot of 357 mags in an SP snub.
UncleEd
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I wouldn't say the new Python is "more S&W like" but
what I thought was the Rube Goldberg cylinder stop/bolt
armature design has been eliminated. Replacing it
is a duplicate of the S&W cylinder stop/bolt design.
The new Python still retains a V-spring power design
for the trigger and hammer. (Call it a U-spring now if
you like.). But the trigger pull in DA is much, much
better than the old Python.
I still consider the new design's trigger reset in
DA use still a bit too soft for my liking. I never
ease off much on the trigger even in its return.
1942bull
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You cannot go wrong with the one in this video.
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