Putting a little more power in a $15.00 Daisy

Is there a better trigger for a 1938 RR?
I just had to beat the trigger assembly out of a RR I'm working on because it half cocked and wouldn't shoot or fully cock.
The bear trap latched and I couldn't do anything with it, so I basically had to break it apart to get it out, bummer.
Terry
 
Terry

Shane may have been working on one, not sure. Best to remove the bear (crap) trap unless young shooters are involved.
The reason for a bear trap trigger jam is the gun wasn't cocked all the way - this short youtube vid explains.

Cheers!
"Ratte"
 
Yea I will have to ask Shane about that.
What happened was I put an aluminum plug in the piston assy to keep the sides stiff and I put it to far back towards the sear .
This would not allow the cocking lever to move all the way to full cock position.
So at that point the gun was between a rock and a hard place, it wouldn't fully cock nor would it shoot .
I had to completely destroy the trigger assy. to get it out.
I have moved the plug to a better position and it is going to fully cock now, just got to get a trigger and give it a try.
Thanks Terry
 
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Model 1938B - Parts from Daisy
169750-000 Plunger Assembly $4.00
169751-000 Trigger Assembly $4.00

Cheers!
"Ratte"
 
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Thanks Ratte
How do I go about ordering one of those?
Have you a link for ordering parts? I didn't see one on the Daisy web site.
Thanks Terry
 
Terry

Call Daisy @1-479-636-1200 option 1 during normal business hours (Arkansas).

What you need to do is figure out what parts you want to order - the info is in these Parts Diagrams ( not current) - and make a list in the following order:
Model# of gun (eg. Model 1938B)
Part# (eg. #169751-000)
Description (eg.Trigger Assembly)
Quantity (eg. 2)
Price (eg. $4.00 ea.) - this may vary, just confirm.

Verify that everything on your order is in-stock - otherwise they will hold your order until everything is ready to ship!

Give shipping/billing info & payment method, then thank the nice Daisy lady and wait for the Big Brown Truck (or what ever).

Cheers!
"Ratte"


Ps. - if you are desperate, mayby someone can send you something.
 

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Terry

In my haste to fire off the above and getback to college football ("GO Bucks"), I forgot to mention the quickest, cheapest and fastest way to get parts -

"Wally World" - for $15 or $25 bucks go in and buy a spare gun or two! They should be practically giving them away in the coming weeks.

Not only do you have a cache of spare parts, but you also have guns to screw around with - without destroying your descent guns.
(Sometimes our experiments don't always go as anticipated - "Face it Flounder you F**KED UP!!")

Cheers!
"Ratte"
 
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Thanks I was thinking that myself, they had them at WallyWorld the other day for 15.00 for a Buck.
Like I told my last employer............:fire:
"If you think the mistake I just made was bad, stick around because I will make another":neener:
Terry
 
The Buck trigger is an exact match to the 1938B. So is everything else inside the gun except the length of the shot tube.

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I just cut the bear trap off at the front stop, where it's bent over .
Or should I say was bent over.
Should I remove the springs?
Terry
 
Do any of the lines depict where you cut? If the torsion spring attached to the rack is still in place, doesn't the rack still engage the plunger tube when fully cocked? If you want a lighter trigger pull, the torsion spring needs to go. The rearmost return spring is optional.

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I cut it at door number three !
Only I cut it at an angle to remove all the bear teeth .
I will ask my friend if he wants a lighter trigger pull, if he does I will remove the spring.
Thanks Guy's
Terry
 
Would anyone have a copy of those parts list that's readable?
I cant read the part numbers when I use the zoom on the PDF?
Thanks Terry
 
Terry

Please look on the 1st page of this thread (then read the thing!). Everything is in here.
You can call GAMO DAISY and ask "the nice Daisy Lady" to email the PDFs for the Models you are interested in.

Cheers!
"Ratte"


Ps. - I got some new "toys" for my workshop - Santa came early!
 
I cut it at door number three !
Only I cut it at an angle to remove all the bear teeth .
I will ask my friend if he wants a lighter trigger pull, if he does I will remove the spring.
Thanks Guy's
Terry
You can soften the leading edge of the trigger blade for a more comfortable feel while you're at it. He'll think it's a new set-up!
 
Hi there everyone. I've been reading through this thread for a while now. I thought i created an acct a while back but, now I have one. I really enjoy the comments and conversations each share. I noticed the modern trigger topic rise up and wanted to share a vid I took on these for a better breakdown and look at the inards. My channel also has an introduction to me and what I enjoy doing. I hope this helps.
 
Welcome!

Unbelievable - spent the whole morning "futzing" with one of these to try and figure out why it would intermittantly fail to catch and lock up -
and lo and behold your video appears out of the blue! Checked out your other vids and website on ebay and am totally impressed!

Like the way you operate!

Cheers!
"Ratte"
 
Thank youbsh
Welcome!

Unbelievable - spent the whole morning "futzing" with one of these to try and figure out why it would intermittantly fail to catch and lock up -
and lo and behold your video appears out of the blue! Checked out your other vids and website on ebay and am totally impressed!

Like the way you operate!

Cheers!
"Ratte"
Thank you so much! Hopefully you get your springer back in action soon. Maybe it's called a bear trap because it's a bear, along with a trap .lol
 
Hi there everyone. I've been reading through this thread for a while now. I thought i created an acct a while back but, now I have one. I really enjoy the comments and conversations each share. I noticed the modern trigger topic rise up and wanted to share a vid I took on these for a better breakdown and look at the inards. My channel also has an introduction to me and what I enjoy doing. I hope this helps.
BBC, great video! The only time I was inside one of these new trigger modules was a Sheridan Cowboy BB gun trigger that comes from the factory with small screws and a clip holding it together. It's a shame Daisy didn't specify their triggers be assembled that way, too. It would make modifying them a lot easier- but that's probably why they didn't!

From page 4:
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Wow. I had no idea that the cowboy has the same assembly besides the screw and clip addition. I guess I was a little late to that game. I may pick up one for a looksie
 
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