Spohr revolvers? They look promising. Ever heard of them?

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Just happened to stumble across Spohr revolvers on GunBroker. I'd never heard of them before but they look interesting. They're German made and I can't really find any information about them in English. Any of you know about these? I'm just gonna keep updating this OP with info as I find bits and pieces, in case someone else may also be interested in expensive guns from no name foreign companies...that likely don't include factory support outside of their own country.

This appears to be their website.

https://www.fineguns.de/waffentechnik

They build their own revolvers and they look very well made from what little I can find online. They seem to also offer a custom 629 and 627.

I believe they're new on the market but could be wrong. I linked a review in a below post (it's in a different language). It was from this year and mentioned how you can still get German quality at an affordable price. I think they originally started in 2017 but only offered their custom S&W revolvers.

Okay, so further digging has made me aware of some much needed information. They're made by a group of competitive shooters known as Club 30...or something along those lines. They first started out by tuning S&W revolvers. I guess they wanted more though because in August of last year they released their very own in house revolver. That's what we get here.

Okay so I have another new update, and a fairly exciting one. I was reading German gun forums and from what I could tell, these Spohr/Club30 revolvers are universally loved. The quality is exceptional according to several German Hulkamaniacs, brother. The exciting part though is that there's also another German revolver company named Janz. They're like the gold standard of revolvers in Germany...even above Korth, and without debate (allegedly). Unfortunately on GunBroker, they're over $10,000 lol. The Spohr/Club30 guns I made the thread about are still pretty exciting for me though. I mean at $3,000, it can at least be a justified risk if the means are readily available.



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Haven't the foggiest but a few
observations:

Seems to have a cylinder take-down
button similar to the Korth but on the
left side, not Korth's right side. The
quick takedown is set up to take
a 9mm cylinder exchange.

A hammer pivot pin exposed on the
left side is akin to Ruger's wheelguns
such as the GP100.

Stocks look Hogue-ish but a screw
enters the right side. Don't see
a backstrap and by the design of the
stocks, maybe no backstrap but a
post design like the GP100.

The cylinder release "button" may be
push ala Ruger or push ala S&W. Seems
design is for a slightly downward push.

Ejector rod seems to be something of a
conventional S&W design with locking
within the barrel shroud.

Barrel might be shrouded or solid.

Anyone's guess as to the inner design
but I suspect a coil hammer spring and
some sort of trigger return spring like
Smith's.

Oh yeah, cylinder turns counter-clockwise.

All in all, an expensive Ruger/Smith/Korth/
Manurhin 73 entry into the L-framed
sized .357 market.

Oh lordee, what did Smith & Wesson spawn
back in 1935 and then in 1980? :(:mad::oops::scrutiny:
 
UncleEd said:
Haven't the foggiest but a few
observations:

Seems to have a cylinder take-down
button similar to the Korth but on the
left side, not Korth's right side. The
quick takedown is set up to take
a 9mm cylinder exchange.

A hammer pivot pin exposed on the
left side is akin to Ruger's wheelguns
such as the GP100.

Stocks look Hogue-ish but a screw
enters the right side. Don't see
a backstrap and by the design of the
stocks, maybe no backstrap but a
post design like the GP100.

The cylinder release "button" may be
push ala Ruger or push ala S&W. Seems
design is for a slightly downward push.

Ejector rod seems to be something of a
conventional S&W design with locking
within the barrel shroud.

Barrel might be shrouded or solid.

Anyone's guess as to the inner design
but I suspect a coil hammer spring and
some sort of trigger return spring like
Smith's.

Oh yeah, cylinder turns counter-clockwise.

All in all, an expensive Ruger/Smith/Korth/
Manurhin 73 entry into the L-framed
sized .357 market.

Oh lordee, what did Smith & Wesson spawn
back in 1935 and then in 1980? :(:mad::oops::scrutiny:
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I saw the internals online (added an image to the OP). The mainspring looks kinda like a Korth. That's what really intrigued me. They're right around $3,000 on GunBroker. If the quality is there, I'm kinda interested. If it's anywhere near a Korth, but with the familiar cylinder release of Smith/Ruger, I wouldn't mind owning one.

Of course that's a LOT of money to pay for something unheard of and with no known factory support. Could be the best revolver ever though lol.

The guy in this review was impressed it seemed.

https://www.all4shooters.com/de/sho...rd-match-revolver-des-club-30-mitglieds-test/
 
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I see these super expensive toys like this, and it makes me momentarily want to be my boss who can afford all kinds of $$$$ stuff like this, but he daily carries an old Ruger LCP. I would have something better. A new, really new, "pre-lock" S&W, clone or not, interests me greatly.
 
After seeing the insides, my earlier
posting seems to bear out, the gun
is a version of the S&W revolvers
system albeit more sophisticated.

While the coil hammer spring design
is obviously quite refined it still
basically resembles a modification
performed by gunsmiths dating back
to the 1970s or 1980s.

Once upon a time, I had a Smith
Model 624 with 6-inch barrel so
modified.
 
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Jim Watson said:
I can't find the article in English, searching on the all4 site in English finds no Spohr. Do you know where it is?
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I just used Google Translate lol. As always, there will be errors but I believe you can at least get a general understanding from it.
 
Okay guys...my digging through German gun forums has led to the discovery of another German revolver company. Look up Janz revolvers. They make Korth look like Glock lol.

At least these $3,000 Spohr/Club30 guns are somewhat affordable.
 
KarateHottie93 said:
...my digging through German gun forums has led to the discovery of another German revolver company. Look up Janz revolvers.
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Ah, yes, the Janz, the ultimate of boutique
niche revolvers. Off and on the Janz has
been a subject of comment on the Smith
& Wesson Forum.

While posters have commented on owning
Korths, I don't think any yet have said they
have a Janz.

For a very extensive and picture heavy
review of the Janz, check out
Revolverguy.com with article titled
The Janz Revolver, the Best Gun You'
Never Heard Of
 
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The revolver was originally designed and built by the German Club30, back in 1991 thirty German gunsmiths had attended a seminar from S&W 's Fitzgerald and Viencio and became S&W certified armourers, two years later 18 of those founded the Club 30 and became known as tuners and distributors of S&W revolvers and perform warranty work for S&W, this will explain why the action is obviously based on the S&W design. The Club30 RLrange revolver is available in Germany since over a year and the reviews of actual owners that shoot the guns are all positive. RL stands for revolver line and Thomas Spohr was pretty much the guy behind the idea to come up with the revolver.

Our forum member Terry Two Shanks has Korth and Jantz revolvers and likes the Jantz. I personally find the Jantz a little too large.
 
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Very interesting revolver. They seem to lack the roller trigger of the Korth or Janz. I would like to shoot one.
 
UncleEd said:
Ah, yes, the Janz, the ultimate of boutique
niche revolvers. Off and on the Janz has
been a subject of comment on the Smith
& Wesson Forum.

While posters have commented on owning
Korths, I don't think any yet have said they
have a Janz.

For a very extensive and picture heavy
review of the Janz, check out
Revolverguy.com with article titled
The Janz Revolver, the Best Gun You'
Never Heard Of
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Read your comment and figured to say, I own one... Waiting, on delivery next week...of my Janz EM. .357 mag, 6". - fluted cylinder (rare)... high polish deep blue gloss (rare)... LNIB - 20 rounds fired... Under. $9k... Retail - $13-14k... Sold most every handgun I owned... and raised the cash... Life is short...
 
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JanzEM357 said:
Read your comment and figured to say, I own one... Waiting, on delivery next week...of my Janz EM. .357 mag, 6". - fluted cylinder (rare)... high polish deep blue gloss (rare)... LNIB - 20 rounds fired... Under. $9k... Retail - $13-14k... Sold most every handgun I owned... and raised the cash... Life is short...
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Wow that thing is absolutely beautiful
 
Wow, nosebleed territory for those. Do like the look of the lockwork; the current MIM stuff works well, but it's not a thing of beauty.
What is the perceived advantage of the coil mainspring? Assume Smith went to the coil in the J frame to save space (what did the I frame use?)
Thnx,
Moon
 
I don't know what advantage there is to a coil spring but they are common; coil spring conversions for SAA and S&W, all new designs use coils. The S&W I frame was leaf, the Improved I and successor J are coil.
 
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