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My father recently bought a Smith and Wesson Sport II AR. I told him to get one with iron sights but when he showed it to me, it’s the version with no sights just a rail. I now need to get him something so that it is useable. I assume there is no way to get iron sights for it since there is no front sight, so if I’m stuck with a red dot, what do you recommend?
 
Absolutely nothing wrong with a red dot. I think they bring more enjoyment than iron anyway. Whats your budget.
 
Pretty sure you can mount a sight on the gas block or either to that handguard or another handguard
 
Without a picture it's hard to say, but a lot of rails are perfectly capable of holding a front sight. But, there's nothing wrong with a red dot (I like Aimpoint, among others) or a LPVS (low power variable scope - I carry a 1-8x Trijicon on a work rifle).
 
My father recently bought a Smith and Wesson Sport II AR. I told him to get one with iron sights but when he showed it to me, it’s the version with no sights just a rail. I now need to get him something so that it is useable. I assume there is no way to get iron sights for it since there is no front sight, so if I’m stuck with a red dot, what do you recommend?
It looks like you could get detachable flip up sights and mount them both easily enough as there's a rail on the gas block and you would still have room for whatever optic you want. It would be pretty sweet actually. I'd probably put a vortex strike eagle 1-8x or similar scope on a quality return to zero mount on that rifle but that's just my preference.
 
If you really want irons, you can get a front sight that mounts on the gas block. Just make sure it's a pinned gas block, because if it is clamp on this could potentially make it rotate if bumped.
A2FrontSight.jpg
 
... no sights just a rail....
If it's a full-length rail just get yourself a pair of Magpul flip-up sights (or any other brand of matching front and rear sights) and mount them on the rail. Eazy Peazy. If it's not a full-length rail the front sight needs to be a gas-block mount sight else they won't line up right.
 
What’s the role that he wants this rifle to fill?

Plinker? Lower cost red dot vs variable optic vs irons. Advise metal for the front sight at the very least. If he shoots quickly the gas block will heat up. Potentially to plastic melting temps.

Defensive? Spend a little more on a nicer red dot vs irons.

I would recommend the Daniel Defense sight set if you go that route.

https://danieldefense.com/ar-15-iron-sight-set.html

Simple and sturdy.

If you decided on a defensive optic.

https://aimpoint.us/aimpoint-patrol...sight-with-qrp2-mount-and-spacer-2-moa-12841/
 
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If it's this one it looks as if there's a short picatinny rail in the front you could mount a front sight to. Maybe Magpul MBUS.
smith-and-wesson-mp-15-sport-ii-556-ar15-rifle-optics-ready.jpg
 
I run fixed (no flip up), metal (not plastic), iron sights on all my ARs, railed and not. Every brand of AR accessory maker has 2+ styles. I particularly like MidWest and Daniel Defense for rears, but my rail-mounted fronts are all UTG Slim Fixed Low Pro, made in Taiwan.
 
Keep in mind that gas block rails come in two heights, and likewise so do sights. If it is like the pic above, you need a handguard height front sight. If the gas block rails is lower, get a sight for gas block height.
 
So the front mini picatinny rail is also the gas block? And a metal sight is required as plastic will melt? (Thanks, I'm new to ARs)
 
So the front mini picatinny rail is also the gas block? And a metal sight is required as plastic will melt? (Thanks, I'm new to ARs)
Yes, in the pic you posted the mini front rail is integral to the gas block. Kind of an unusual configuration, to come in the box that way. But the front and back rails are level with each other so you could mount a rail-mounted flip-up front sight, so long as it's made from metal, and any rail-mount flip-up rear sight. Only Magpul's top-of-the line sights are metal, and they're expensive. UTG / Leapers makes decent metal sights that should work just fine for you. Make sure, though, that you don't accidentally buy the "gas-block-mount" front sight because it will be too high for that set-up. Been there, done that. Twice. :oops:
 
I have a fixed UTG sight on one of my rifles. Very pleased with it, especially the serrated face that is facing the shooter. It reduces glare. Not sure id trust one of their folders or not.

There is also the option of a gas block with flip up front sight. This would replace the short railled gas block you have now. I have one from midwest industries on my scoped AR.

Ive bought a range of folding sights from $25 up to $125. As long as they are metal, the quality is usually decent. But like anything, the expensive ones are noticably nicer.
 
Yes, in the pic you posted the mini front rail is integral to the gas block. Kind of an unusual configuration, to come in the box that way. But the front and back rails are level with each other so you could mount a rail-mounted flip-up front sight, so long as it's made from metal, and any rail-mount flip-up rear sight. Only Magpul's top-of-the line sights are metal, and they're expensive. UTG / Leapers makes decent metal sights that should work just fine for you. Make sure, though, that you don't accidentally buy the "gas-block-mount" front sight because it will be too high for that set-up. Been there, done that. Twice. :oops:

I’ve wondered how that all works. I went with a traditional front sight tower for a dedicated AR15-A4 but I dug for a while trying to find out what the F-marked sight meant.
 
So the front mini picatinny rail is also the gas block? And a metal sight is required as plastic will melt? (Thanks, I'm new to ARs)
Yes, if you peek in through the top of the fore end, you ought see a tube running from the front block back to the receiver.
Now, would that block get hot enough to melt Magpul polymer? Maybe--that would take a lot of rounds in a very short amount of time, and while uncomfortable to human touch, probably not in the range to soften modern polymers.

Now, a cheaper set of thermoplastic BUIS? Maybe.

Now, there's an excellent argument for the angled offset BUIS, which leaves the centerline "clean" for optics of whatever sort.
A review (for what it's worth): https://www.firearmreview.com/best-offset-iron-sights/
 
I’ve wondered how that all works. I went with a traditional front sight tower for a dedicated AR15-A4 but I dug for a while trying to find out what the F-marked sight meant.

An F marked A2 front sight block is for flat top receivers, detatchable carry handles included. A NON-F-Marked one is for A1/A2 integrated carry handle upper receivers.
 
Thanks for all the clarification. My AR has a floating barrel but I was interested to understand the other half's ARs are configured.
 
I have an AR with a railed gas block like the one pictured above.
Should be the same height as the receiver rail so any add on or flip up sight should work.

as mentioned, I’d avoid polymer, while they may not flat out melt they can get soft enough to deform with recoil over time. I HAVE seem a Magpul flip up ruined with heavy mag dumps in a short time.

Yankee Hill Machine also makes a nice metal flip up front sight for tall railed gas blocks.
 
I have this on one of my lightweight AR's. I think it's great. Very easy to install. I centered the post by using a zeroed red dot optic and then aligning the dot with the rear sight and turning the front until the post lined up with the other two, then removed the red dot. Sight radius is much improved and works great if you have older eyes. It changes the "look" of the rifle though, if that's a big deal for you.

I'm using an old, fully metal flip up rear sight. Could be a UTG product, I don't remember, but I do know that I like it a lot better than the Magpul I have on a different rifle. The sight picture is cleaner.

https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/optics/ar-15-fixed-clamp-on-front-sight/
 
Re: barrel clamp-on front sight on a free-floating barrel? I dunno ... sounds to me like it would affect barrel harmonics and thus accuracy. Though I suppose if it's sighted in with the clamp-on sight installed, it really doesn't make a difference, as it's a "permanent" fixture. Anybody that knows more about free-floating barrel harmonics please fill us in ...
 
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