Rifle cartridges you dislike for no real reason

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Great thread. For me, 6.5 Creedmoor, 350 Legend, 300 Blackout and all the other cartridges cooked up in the marketing department rather than Engineering. I’ve been around long enough to learn there really isn’t anything new under the Sun. Marketing comes up with a new cartridge to fill a niche that has been filled multiple times already.
I would make the case that, depending on one’s use-case, everything developed (promoted) in the last ~40 years is redundant.
Now, for a totally baseless prejudice, I have a strong preference for 5.56 over 223. Yeah I know, essentially the same, but still…
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Lol, I prefer .223 over 5.56. :)
 
I have to say .270 win and all the 270 wannabe cartridges. 7mm cartridges will do everything that the 270 will and then some.
Not that it's a bad cartridge, but without Jack it would not have the handed down following.
17 caliber cartridges!!! Why do we have them???
 
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.270.

In the 60’s when I was a teenager and really getting into shooting I read Outdoor Life and Field & Stream religiously. About every second or third article from O’Conner was about sheep hunting in the Sonora desert and how magical the .270 was. Got old. Really old.

Then, my uncle had a very lightweight .270 that was “loaded hot” by a hand loader that thought if a maximum charge was good, 10% over was better. We used it for groundhogs because that’s what we had. Kicked hard with the hard plastic but plate. After every outing my shoulder was bruised.

Later I had somewhat the same experience with a .308, so it’s not a favorite for no rational reason
 
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At the end of the day they are all just brass powder holders in different lengths and widths but I have a strong indifference to anything which I consider to be overbore, and I roll my eyes at a lot of the fanfare that has gone along with certain cartridges for decades that has no basis in objective fact. We have all heard someone proclaim that XXX cartridge is a "a great game killer that hits above its weight class" or other such non sense. Cartridges don't kill anything, the bullet that comes out the end of the barrel is what kills things. The cartridge case is just something to hold the powder and primer for us.

I dislike 270 mainly because my father in law and others harping about how great it is for decades. Any cartridge smaller is diminutive and underpowered, and any cartridge bigger is also inferior and doesn't hit as hard up until you get to about 338 win mag, at which point they become ridiculously overpowered and silly in his eyes. Every time someone brings up Jack O'Connor I want to throw a shoe at them. Myself I can't think of a single use for a 270 that I wouldn't rather use a 280 or 30/06 or even a 7x57

In the overbore camp I have to give it to the 243 winchester. Another cartridge that people have built into a miracle cartridge. To me its an overpowered varmint rifle and a showcase into how to turn 45 grains of powder into noise and the lowest amount of energy possible. I don't have a use case for a 6mm bullet with 45 grains of powder behind it, especially not one with a 1:10 twist.

I am overthinking this, I was supposed to be picking cartridges I dislike for no articulable reason, but I can't think of any that I don't have a reason for. The closest I can come is one with silly names or 30/30 winchester. An outdated dinosaur of a case design that just won't give up and die.
 
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I don't hate any specific cartridges per say
I hate people using them in ways that are unethical, such as bragging about 800 yard shots on deer with a 6.5 grendel, 1000 yard shots on elk with a 6.5CM, etc...
those kind of stories leave a sour taste in my mouth for the new cartridges that people tout as being able to turn you from a mediocre hunter into a special forces sniper, yet have the same limitations as 100 year old cartridges such as the 30-06.
 
.270 and 6.5 CM, because of the hype. So many equal and BETTER cartridge.
7.62x39 because kommie bastage
.300 BO, AAC, Ham'r because
.350Legend same because
.308, annoying little brother of .30-06, trying to copy and not getting there.
The Nosier, the WSSM. nothing new, just hype and redundancies.

What cannot be covered with:
.22LR
.223
.30-06
.45-70

3 out of 4, over 100 yrs old and nothing better.
Changes / improvements in powder and bullets, just makes them better. No legitimate need for anything else.
 
I don't know that I can answer this one. I can name one or more reasons for my dislike of specific cartridges, and those I don't have strong opinions about aren't interesting topics for discussion.

Top of the list of cartridges I dislike with reason is .300 Win Mag. For me, I don't need a .30 cal for anything, the recoil was too sharp (I'd rather shoot my .375 Ruger), and the belt is stupid. Sorry, don't have an irrational dislike of any rifle cartridges; there's always a reason. YMMV.
 
Seedy Character said:
.270 and 6.5 CM, because of the hype. So many equal and BETTER cartridge.
7.62x39 because kommie bastage
.300 BO, AAC, Ham'r because
.350Legend same because
.308, annoying little brother of .30-06, trying to copy and not getting there.
The Nosier, the WSSM. nothing new, just hype and redundancies.

What cannot be covered with:
.22LR
.223
.30-06
.45-70

3 out of 4, over 100 yrs old and nothing better.
Changes / improvements in powder and bullets, just makes them better. No legitimate need for anything else.
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We could go with the 22 Savage High Power shooting a 71 grain bullet at 2800 developed in 1912 and the 375 H&H made the same year and have the world covered 100+ years ago.
No need for the 223 :rofl:
 
.25-06 - Low BC bullets and more recoil than a .243.

I have a love/hate affair for the .30-06. I like it in that it's what I started with and only thing I knew in the beginning. I hate it b/c I've become more recoil sensitive as I've gotten older and it always kicked the heck out of me with the plastic butt plate. Also have a love hate for the .243 Win. It has to be the smoothest shooting rifle in terms of recoil but you have to be selective with your shots.
 
I'd have to say 350 Legend. Only because there are states with vast amounts of farm land and wide open spaces that think the Legend and other straight wall cartridges are somehow "safer" for their residents and rather than debate this faulty logic an ammo company made a round with less performance than the 30-30 to appease them, while those of us that live here in CT and other states with smaller tracks of land have been able to hunt with centerfire rifles for years provided we have 10 acres or more to hunt on with no safety issues for some time.
 
There are a lot of cartridges I don't like. First would be the 6.5 Creedmore and the 7mm-08. Both are merely necked down .308 cases and a 6.5x55 and 7mm Mauser is just as good or better. Second would be the Carcano. I just care for the rifle. As mentioned, I don't like the .270 for the same reasons mentioned above. .280 is my favorite. 30-06 is okay with me but it's a copy of the 7mm Mauser. The US just stole the design from the Germans and added case size and powder to replicate the ballistics, so I've read. The Germans did win a patent infringement lawsuit but the US never paid because it was on the winning side of WWI. The French MAS round. It's a shortened .308 to me.
 
It's funny the title states "Rifle Cartridges you Dislike for no real reason." And everyone precedes to give a reason. :D

I would post some cartridges, but I have reasons why I don't like them, so I'm in a conundrum with the thread.
 
New cartridges whose ballistics are marketed as being revolutionary, but actually duplicate rounds developed 100+ years ago. The "fact" that they "fit in an AR" is pretty weak sauce. Two biggest offenders are the 6mm ARC compared to 6mm Lee-Navy and the 350 Legend compared to the .351 Winchester.
 
6.5 Creedmoore.
Its the official round of the "I need a diesel dually truck to pick up my groceries, and I need to put exhaust enhancers to make it sound like a semi, and idle it for 40 minutes at 5:00 AM" crowd.

Its also the official round of the "I can shoot, this scope/ammo/rifle just suck" crowd.

Its also the official round of the "I play C.O.D., so I must be naturally talented, so I need the best equipment, I'm going to buy a $1600 precision rifle, $400 in ammo, and do bolt-action mag-dumps because I don't know what to do, and am too emotionally fragile to seek help" crowd.

Most importantly its the official round of the "the magazine told me its the best round, and I don't understand the concept of bias, or misdirection" crowd.

That said, its a fine round and I have no real problem with it. Its just what comes to mind. Of course its adaptors probably have the same thing to say about me when I refuse to stop calling it the 6-5 Swede-more.
"oh that idiots part of the .308 is all you need to do anything from swat flies to disable satellites crowd. Probably still drives a carbureted car, and uses 56k"

ETA -This post was meant as a joke mostly. If you fit one of the caricature, no offense intended.
 
mjsdwash said:
6.5 Creedmoore.
Its the official round of the "I need a diesel dually truck to pick up my groceries, and I need to put exhaust enhancers to make it sound like a semi, and idle it for 40 minutes at 5:00 AM" crowd.

Its also the official round of the "I can shoot, this scope/ammo/rifle just suck" crowd.

Its also the official round of the "I play C.O.D., so I must be naturally talented, so I need the best equipment, I'm going to buy a $1600 precision rifle, $400 in ammo, and do bolt-action mag-dumps because I don't know what to do, and am too emotionally fragile to seek help" crowd.

Most importantly its the official round of the "the magazine told me its the best round, and I don't understand the concept of bias, or misdirection" crowd.

That said, its a fine round and I have no real problem with it. Its just what comes to mind. Of course its adaptors probably have the same thing to say about me when I refuse to stop calling it the 6-5 Swede-more.
"oh that idiots part of the .308 is all you need to do anything from swat flies to disable satellites crowd. Probably still drives a carbureted car, and uses 56k"

ETA -This post was meant as a joke mostly. If you fit one of the caricature, no offense intended.
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Something tells me the masses of 6.5 Manbun don't know what you are talking about when you say 56k.

I do like the 6.5 Swede-more play on words.

Silly 6.5 guys, don't they know 7mm is where it's at?

I also, am saying in jest. 6.5 Creedmoor is perfectly capable of doing what what the 6.5 Swede's been doing since 1894. :p
 
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