Have gun people stopped buying?

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I was at Scheels today, and noticed that things were very different from my last visit. Display cases that were removed not long ago so as to not bring attention to how empty they were getting to be, were back again, and now they were all full of handguns of every brand. Long guns were back, with multiples of almost all the popular ones that were missing recently. Ammo was also back in a big way, with all calibers represented in large numbers.

But there was something missing: Customers.

Sure, plenty of inventory to buy, but the prices were so high that I guess people no longer see anything as worthwhile. A 50 round box of Wolf 9mm steel case for $20 was the cheapest FMJ 9mm ammo. The rest was upwards of $30. A S&W Sport 2 AR15 used to sell for $550 elsewhere, but $600 at Scheels. Now it's $800 at Scheels.

I bought a S&W Shield 9mm less than a year ago there for $429. Now it's $499.
A Ruger 10/22 rifle with a regular wood stock is $319. It used to be about $100 less before.
Let's hope the law of supply and demand takes hold. If prices are too high, people don't buy, forcing prices back down.
 
Guns and ammo seem to be in stock more, but unlike you, the prices I’ve seen have been lower than a year or two ago, generally. I think a few factors are at play.

Below are some possible contributing factors. Whether all, none, or some are contributing is unknown, but these are my best guesses.

-People have been buying whatever they can get their hands on over the past two years and are content for the time being.

-People were fearful about the Dems eliminating the filibuster and erasing the second amendment, but the possibility of elimination of the filibuster appears to have subsided for the time being.

-Inflation and the lack of stimulus money is causing people to prioritize their spending on daily essentials such as food, gas, car repairs.

-Biden’s approval ratings are suggesting troubled waters for the Dems in the mid-terms so some people may be reducing their panic buying under the premise that the Dems won’t push any drastic anti-gun legislation over the next few months or banking on Republicans becoming the majority party again.
 
I would like one more gun in a caliber new to me but I’m waiting because of the ridiculous ammo and primer prices. There are thousands of cases of 9mm in stock at several places online, and they’ve been there for quite a while, yet prices are not going down. Odd ball calibers are even in stock and as expected, the prices are even worse than popular calibers. So in my case, ammo and primer prices is the reason I’m not buying guns.
 
Guns and ammo seem to be in stock more, but unlike you, the prices I’ve seen have been lower than a year or two ago, generally. I think a few factors are at play.

Below are some possible contributing factors. Whether all, none, or some are contributing is unknown, but these are my best guesses.

-People have been buying whatever they can get their hands on over the past two years and are content for the time being.

-People were fearful about the Dems eliminating the filibuster and erasing the second amendment, but the possibility of elimination of the filibuster appears to have subsided for the time being.

-Inflation and the lack of stimulus money is causing people to prioritize their spending on daily essentials such as food, gas, car repairs.

-Biden’s approval ratings are suggesting troubled waters for the Dems in the mid-terms so some people may be reducing their panic buying under the premise that the Dems won’t push any drastic anti-gun legislation over the next few months or banking on Republicans becoming the majority party again.
I might have my tin foil hat on, but I think more panic is right around the corner. I think Russia and China are going to conduct a serious cyber attack on our infrastructure right after the olympics. Biden just spent the first year damaging our country in almost every category/area, while Charlie just gets stronger and stronger. Biden is compromised, our once highly respected ABC agencies are compromised and weaker. I asked myself the other day if we actually had any leader in any cabinet in this administration that would literally sincerely care if we got hit hard. And I could not find any name... not even in the DOD... who in our own government would actually care what happened to us here? With an administration like this, do we really even need enemies?... I know that is cliche but I'm not joking when I ask that. I bought a few pistols on the blue label sales last year for the same cheap price when regular prices on everything were sky high. I have my eye on getting another Mossberg 500 and another SRH 44 but I am not highly motivated to even inquire these days. I'm not paying any higher price for anything... except of course for gas.
 
The way it's looking at the moment, I don't know when I'll ever buy another gun. My gun hobby involves searching for guns I would like to own (I have a pretty narrow range of guns I'm interested in), but there is almost no gun that I'm willing to buy at a price that is more than I think I could sell it for. That's because I don't need another gun at all, so I have put the "bargain requirement" on myself. Those parameters, compounded by the fact that GB started collecting tax, have resulted in me not finding anything that I was compelled to buy for the past few months. Some of the stuff I'm interested in is bringing 2x what I was finding them for 2 years ago.

And I don't need ammo anywhere near badly enough to pay the current prices.
 
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Panic buying can only last for so long. Eventually people will stop paying double and triple what they should for ammo.

On top of that January and February are usually very, very slow for retail. I remember working commission sales at Sears while in high school and it was painful just sitting around with no customers.
 
I would love to have all the guns. But what I want more is time and ammo to shoot them.
Nothing wrong with having a collection, but then I struggle to find time to shoot them all. Would rather have a manageable number that I can get to using.

a few months ago, I sold off/traded a bunch of stuff from the safe that I had not used in years. Everything I have now, has a purpose for me. It is manageable and makes more practical sense for my vision.
 
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I went into a grocery store this evening; shelves were stocked but it was like a ghost town! I guess that I should concluded that no one is eating anymore and it is the government’s fault and don’t forget about those damn Chinese and Russians! Everyone might need to re-read what they just concluded by one guy’s visit to one sporting goods store - I am scratching my head - huh, say what?????
 
I will buy when I see something that I am wanting. So far I have bought another 1911 this year and am looking for a new Marlin or two or three and a few other things.

Supply (and prices) is catching up to demand and it is a slow time for gun purchases now off hunting season. And with the economics of current people see their expendable income needed now for bread and milk and gasoline.

I think I will keep buying when I see something I want. And primers and powders and ------.

3C
 
No, but maybe in a different context-sold two superfluous guns to have ready cash for something, but instead ordered a gun type I had Never planned on buying.

I clicked/bought a Buy Now, new-in-box PTR-91 (G-3 clone) three nights ago.

The high price of .308 ammo might help explain why these new PTRs are priced at approx. $1,100.

And why a nib SA /Springfield M1A-1 with nice walnut stood in a gunshop's floor rack for Days before a friend bought it. The rifle had been there so long that the store somehow no longer had the factory box (but the staff are excellent guys: it's my shipping FFL)).

—— Also…the likelihood that the State Department will deny renewals of permits, as suggested last August, to Import Russian ammo is a factor.
 
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