270 win the best?
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troy fairweather
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Maybe I should have said pigtails.
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In the same light we ask what can a 270 do that a 6.5 creed cant, 7mm-08 cant etc, we can ask what do they do the 270 doesn't. each has its recoil to energy balance and it just so happens that 130-150gr 270 is smack dab where deer can ideally be shot at out to 400 yards without issue.
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not just great, the greatest
.308, 7mm-08, .270, .280, and 30-06 (with 150 gr. bullets) are all the same thing, not enough energy or ballistic difference between any two of them to matter at reasonable whitetail hunting ranges. I know people who hunt with each of these rounds and all are very successful.
You can add at least a dozen more to that list.
Any cartridge 26 caliber and up, firing 140 gr or heavier bullets, will kill any animal in North America. The 270 is as good as any of them. It really come down to the distance you want to shoot. Some are more effective at longer ranges. Some recoil more, some cost more, some are readily available and others are so rare that it is a handloading only proposition. And sometimes we make choices for irrational reasons.
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7mm-08 is the best deer cartridge ever developed, period.
The .270 wishes it was a .280 Rem most days.
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Hokkmike
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The 6.5x55 has the same ballistics & power and better sectional density with much LESS noise, recoil, and chamber pressures. The Swede, also a former competitive Olympic round is more accurate...
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I have probably read everything Jack O'Connor wrote about the .270 and his Winchester Model 70 twice if not more. The .270 is a proven cartridge and is still one of the big dogs. Still if one compares the ballistics and ballistic coefficients of the newer 6mm/6.5mm vs the .270 it would have to factor into someones consideration when buying a new gun. And the .260 Nosler also.
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As an avid 270 fan who just purchased a 7mm-08 I will be auditing this post. I don't normally go for the shrimp action.7mm-08 is the best deer cartridge ever developed, period.
The .270 wishes it was a .280 Rem most days.
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Don't blame me if you fall in love with the 7mm-08.
If you reload, try 120 grain Noslers or Barnes TTSX's over CFE 223. Those pills running 3200 are flat out killers.
Rubone
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It would be cool to have a short action 270 to play with....Oh wait a minute, I have one!! A Remington SPS in 270WSM. And it does a fine job on Speedgoats too!
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txcookie
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I'd get smoked if I had a 15000 dollar set up in cm or anything else. That said roll up some match level 270 in a bench rifle and you'd have something to play with. It would kick and cost a lot to feed which is why you don't see them. The cartridge is capable but it's a hunter and thusly you don't see a lot of tournament set up. Doesn't mean it's no capable of match level accuracy.
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I have a press but I just havn't found the time to really get started. Also when I have been looking for bullets it seems i can get alot more .277 than .284 right now, although I'd really like to cook something up for the lightweight hunting rig i have.Don't blame me if you fall in love with the 7mm-08.
If you reload, try 120 grain Noslers or Barnes TTSX's over CFE 223. Those pills running 3200 are flat out killers.
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I've seen the same. .284's are very popular, for good reason. The .270 had it's day, but it has fallen out of favor with modern day hunters.
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I like the .270 Winchester. It is my deer cartridge.
However, if deer is the only game on the menu, I would tend to agree with those suggesting less recoiling options as capable. Newer offerings often allow a more optimal use of powder and high ballistic coefficient bullets with higher sectional density.
I will certainly not sell my .270 for so small improvements, probably not measurable on the dead deer, but if someone started from zero rifle and only wanted to hunt deer, that person should at least consider the other offerings.
It would be illegal here (not powerful enough as per our hunting regulations), but 6.5 Grendel is demonstrating that in a certain kind of way, I think.
However, if deer is the only game on the menu, I would tend to agree with those suggesting less recoiling options as capable. Newer offerings often allow a more optimal use of powder and high ballistic coefficient bullets with higher sectional density.
I will certainly not sell my .270 for so small improvements, probably not measurable on the dead deer, but if someone started from zero rifle and only wanted to hunt deer, that person should at least consider the other offerings.
It would be illegal here (not powerful enough as per our hunting regulations), but 6.5 Grendel is demonstrating that in a certain kind of way, I think.
Running those over Varget @ 2900 right now. My Mesa was getting 3150 with Stabal.Don't blame me if you fall in love with the 7mm-08.
If you reload, try 120 grain Noslers or Barnes TTSX's over CFE 223. Those pills running 3200 are flat out killers.
Everybody who shoots that gun really likes it, I'm glad I chose it as the cartridge for my loaner.
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120 BT’s with 4895 was the first load I ever tried with my 7-08. It was so good, I’ve never had the need try another.
Pot meet kettle lol.
In a world of compromise, best compromise is an oxymoron.
Chuck R.
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I was looking through Ken Howell's book "Designing and Forming Custom Cartridges for Rifles and Handguns" last night, mines a 1995 version, and it's remarkable how few new ideas there really are.
I think the major new twist for cartridge development, is just that...the twist.
And making a cartridge that fits in a Stanag magazine.
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I've noticed one overall thing about deer and that is they are not hard to kill...with just about any kind of hunting tool. If my state made spear hunting legal, I probably give that a try. Lord knows I've been close enough to deer while bowhunting from the ground to reach out and touch them.
Whether the 6.8 mm (.270) is the be all to end all, probably not. Because I have killed or seen them killed with every caliber from 6mm to .54 caliber.
I didn't choose the .270 Winchester back in the 80's because it was only offered in 130 gr. or 150 gr. bullets. 7mm and 30 calibers have a huge array of bullets available (especially for reloaders) in weight and bullet configurations. I use to shoot .30 cal, but switched over to 7mm in the early 2000's when I lived in NM and Wyo. Why? I don't know. Just a change of pace I guess. If I had one gun for deer only then a 6mm remington or 25-06 might just be the sweetest ticket there is. Until that day comes, they will keep getting shot with a 7mm-08
Whether the 6.8 mm (.270) is the be all to end all, probably not. Because I have killed or seen them killed with every caliber from 6mm to .54 caliber.
I didn't choose the .270 Winchester back in the 80's because it was only offered in 130 gr. or 150 gr. bullets. 7mm and 30 calibers have a huge array of bullets available (especially for reloaders) in weight and bullet configurations. I use to shoot .30 cal, but switched over to 7mm in the early 2000's when I lived in NM and Wyo. Why? I don't know. Just a change of pace I guess. If I had one gun for deer only then a 6mm remington or 25-06 might just be the sweetest ticket there is. Until that day comes, they will keep getting shot with a 7mm-08
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