An unsafe gun friend

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I would not have anything to do with him if there is a gun around or if he's armed. No way. Does he carry all the time? Because if he does he'd never come in my house again and get the chance to kill my family. Somewhat unsafe? How about "going to kill someone so distance yourself from him dangerous". I don't have many friends either but there's NO WAY I would do anything gun related with this guy and I'd probably just tell him he's unsafe and I don't want him around.
 
So he’s had 3 negligent discharges, one in your house, one in his house and once he shot his own car? And he makes something of a habit of muzzle sweeping folk?

Good thing he’s a Christian, because he’s liable to cause someone to meet Jesus.

Friend or not, he’s a danger to others, if not to himself. You don’t need friends like that.
 
I’m not sure what to say to all of it. I’m still processing all the comments.

I didn’t expect to be called a troll.
 
I don’t know what he did in the AF. He was in and got out 40 years ago. One time he, his son and I were shooting. Well he had his finger on the trigger when adjusting the grip and it was suggested not to do that. And he started saying he was in the AF and had hinted since childhood but now suddenly he’s unsafe. That was a few years back.
 
Good friends can be hard to come by and to be treasured when you have one but I'd rather be with an enemy who handles guns safely than a friend who doesn't. You need to lay the "rules" out and insist on his following them completely. If a talk costs you a friend, sad as that might be, it's far better than you or a loved one losing your/their life or limb.
 
SwampWolf said:
Good friends can be hard to come by and to be treasured when you have one but I'd rather be with an enemy who handles guns safely than a friend who doesn't. You need to lay the "rules" out and insist on his following them completely. If a talk costs you a friend, sad as that might be, it's far better than you or a loved one losing your/their life or limb.
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I recommend shooting by yourself… I prefer it, get into my range bench, lay out my stuff, pop a photo for THR, nobody touching my stuff. RELAXING!

But if I see someone messing up! I will call Ceses Fire quick !
 
Bazoo, if keep him as a friend… he should learn and practice firearms safety. If he chooses not to, keep him unarmed as you walk.

The guy is either too oblivious to remember basic firearm safety, or too arrogant to think they apply to him. If he continues down this path both are just as deadly when, not if, ND #4 happens.

I have too many former friends Ive moved on from over the decades due to arrogance, ignorance or selfishness. Safety would also rate just as high if I had a friend who played that fast and loose with guns.

Good luck! I hope he comes around to understanding his responsibilities and improves his gun handling skills.

Stay safe.
 
If he is an old codger and you were inclined to spare his feelings, and thought it would be effective, you could ask him for a quick lesson on basic gun handling and safety that he learned in the Air Force. But, since he is so negligent and accident prone, he would probably pick up on the fact you are patronizing him.

But as other posters wrote, being all done with him might be the best call. Cutting him out sounds like the extreme scenario, one you might not relish and may have a hard time with, but it's better than the possible tragic alternative. Sounds like a game of Russian roulette with this guy going around armed....
 
What I got from this is that the two of you are friends and somewhat committed to each other. If this is the case then you owe it to him to help him with dangerous behaviors, even if it is uncomfortable.
 
The Glockodile said:
"…Is your friendship limited to firearms?…"
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That seems the ideal path. Make yourself available for concerts, dinners, hikes, fishing, canoeing, and shared family vacations. Bolster those other interests and shooting may easily become an afterthought. If he insists upon continuing to shoot at your range you will still need to have the serious gun safety chat.
 
Blue Jays said:
That seems the ideal path. Make yourself available for concerts, dinners, hikes, fishing, canoeing, and shared family vacations. Bolster those other interests and shooting may easily become an afterthought. If he insists upon continuing to shoot at your range you will still need to have the serious gun safety chat.
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That gun Chat should come from the RO. He might take it more seriously.
 
He's basically telling you that his pride and ego are more valuable than your life and the lives of those you love. Maybe he'll come mow your wife's lawn after he negligently shoots you. This needs to be a cut and dry conversation, no tip toeing around it or trying to make him feel good about it. He's been lucky three times and hasn't learned, when he's not so lucky his first words will be "I didn't think it was loaded." Also from some comments he may be at an age where his mind is failing him, and maybe he shouldn't have guns.
"I was safe enough in the AF, now all of a sudden I'm not safe" Hey it happens, we aren't always as good as we once were.
 
Some people simply were never taught proper gun safety or they lack the emotional maturity/common sense to recognize guns for what they are and that they deserve respect and to be safely handled.

That’s just the way it is. If your friend wants to change with your help, good on him. If not, you need to reevaluate the people you choose to surround yourself with. You’re definitely in the right in your thinking.
 
Back in 1981. I decided that I did not like deer hunting with other people for several reasons. Safety was one but not the main reason. I moved to the country on 6 acres of land with game management land on 3 sides. Over 33 years I got to see a lot of so called (deer hunters) come and go. A lot of drunks. fools. idiots. I hate drunks. Dont want to be around them. Especially drunk hunters. But, The Idiots scare the crap out of me. They can be hard to spot and you never can tell when and what they are going to do. I could tell some stories.
I got too old to hunt anymore but I still go to the range a good bit. I only go to the range in the middle of the week when there are very few if any people there. Idiots are everywhere. Even at the range and harder to spot.
 
tws3b2 said:
Back in 1981. I decided that I did not like deer hunting with other people for several reasons. Safety was one but not the main reason. I moved to the country on 6 acres of land with game management land on 3 sides. Over 33 years I got to see a lot of so called (deer hunters) come and go. A lot of drunks. fools. idiots. I hate drunks. Dont want to be around them. Especially drunk hunters. But, The Idiots scare the crap out of me. They can be hard to spot and you never can tell when and what they are going to do. I could tell some stories.
I got too old to hunt anymore but I still go to the range a good bit. I only go to the range in the middle of the week when there are very few if any people there. Idiots are everywhere. Even at the range and harder to spot.
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middle of the week was my favorite time to go to the range in Renton. All the retirees would bring out all the fun old guns and we get to chatting! good times!
 
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