Where can't you carry in your state?

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As you would imagine, here in New Jersey the Governor is reacting to the SC decision as the end of civilization. Murphy has asked lawmakers to send him a bill that would bar guns in places with a “high density of people,” such as stadiums, arenas, amusement parks, bars and restaurants where alcohol is served, and public transit.

He said the proposal should also cover places with “vulnerable populations,” such as daycare and child care centers, hospitals, health care centers, nursing homes. Plus, he said, it should protect places where governmental and First Amendment-protected activities occur, such as government buildings, polling stations, courthouses, and police stations.

I was wondering what restrictions currently exist in the more gun friendly states. Thanks!
 
SC prohibits carry in government buildings, school property, medical facilities, churches (except with the consent of the pastor), and public transportation (of which there is precious little) Carry in establishments that serve alcohol is permissible as long as you do not imbibe. Naturally, Post Offices and other Federal facilities are off limits. Private businesses cam prohibit carry on their property, but few do.
 
Along with the usual courthouses, post offices and school (K-12) properties, we can't legally carry on Idaho's college and university campuses without an Idaho "Enhanced" Concealed Carry License. That's one of the reasons my wife and I completed the required 8-hour class and got our licenses even though Idaho had sort of become a "constitutional carry" state by that time - because we still have ties with Idaho State University, and end up on campus there every once in a while.
The other reason we went ahead and got our licenses is because having a concealed carry license in Idaho (whether it's the "Standard" OR the "Enhanced" version) makes gun purchases from FFL dealer a little easier - there's no phone-in background checks if you have a concealed carry license in Idaho.
 
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Not surprising that NJ is scrambling to craft new laws that will make it virtually impossible to carry. When you throw in a law that bans firearms in a “high density of people”, you are covering most of the state. Don’t think they’ll let you drive through these ambiguous density areas while carrying either.
 
Nebraska:
Bars (defined as having 50% or more business selling alcoholic beverages)
Law Enforcement station or office;
Prison or jail;
Courtroom or courtroom building;
Polling place during a bona fide election;
Meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or other political subdivision;
Meeting of the Legislature or a committee of the Legislature;
Financial institution;
Professional or semiprofessional athletic event;
Building, grounds, vehicle, or sponsored activity or athletic event of any public, private, denominational, or parochial elementary, vocational, or secondary school, a private postsecondary career school, a community college, or a public or private college, junior college, or university;
Place of worship; (has certain exceptions by organizational - usually local congregation)
Hospital, emergency room, or trauma center;
Political rally or fundraiser;
Place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permit holders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises; (requires posting sign with details).
Place where the possession or carrying of a firearm is prohibited by state or federal law;

I would consider these 'normal' places. My demurrer is this applies ONLY to those who obey the law and does not prevent any scofflaw or villain from being armed.
 
Tom609 said:
As you would imagine, here in New Jersey the Governor is reacting to the SC decision as the end of civilization. Murphy has asked lawmakers to send him a bill that would bar guns in places with a “high density of people,” such as stadiums, arenas, amusement parks, bars and restaurants where alcohol is served, and public transit.

He said the proposal should also cover places with “vulnerable populations,” such as daycare and child care centers, hospitals, health care centers, nursing homes. Plus, he said, it should protect places where governmental and First Amendment-protected activities occur, such as government buildings, polling stations, courthouses, and police stations.

I was wondering what restrictions currently exist in the more gun friendly states. Thanks!
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Texas is like that already. K through 12 schools are off limits, too. As is anyplace that wishes to put up the usual Texas 30.05, 30.06, and 30.07 signage. There's more I'm leaving out, simply because I don't want to look it all up right now.
 
Tom609 said:
As you would imagine, here in New Jersey the Governor is reacting to the SC decision as the end of civilization. Murphy has asked lawmakers to send him a bill that would bar guns in places with a “high density of people,” such as stadiums, arenas, amusement parks, bars and restaurants where alcohol is served, and public transit.

He said the proposal should also cover places with “vulnerable populations,” such as daycare and child care centers, hospitals, health care centers, nursing homes. Plus, he said, it should protect places where governmental and First Amendment-protected activities occur, such as government buildings, polling stations, courthouses, and police stations.
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Utah's list of prohibited places started out kind of large, something like Murphy's proposals. Gradually, as the populace got used to the idea of concealed carry, and realized that lawful carry did not "make blood run in the streets", legislators began eliminating the silliest of these restrictions, one-by-one. In coming years, NJ residents will gradually begin to learn that carrying a concealed gun in public does NOT equal "bad guy with a gun".

Cops will, too.

This will take a while, because of the long tradition in NJ of fearing the gun. A sizeable number of citizens will have to exercise their carry rights to encourage this process. Every cop who has a tiny sigh of relief when a driver in a traffic stop provides a carry permit, and everyone who makes the news for properly defending himself with a carry gun and who is reported to have a carry permit hastens this process.

What has Murphy proposed in terms of reciprocity? If allowed, citizen and cop contact with carriers from other states can help, particularly now, while this process is just beginning.
 
Thank you, all. I appreciate the information. Population density does work against us, as well as a low percentage that own firearms. It will take time, but it's something I never thought I would see in my lifetime. Thanks again.
 
Since you're in the Pinelands, (I'm in Ocean County) you are probably in a gun friendly county, 8 in the state have declared themselves "Sanctuary Counties" and some individual towns as well. The Court was pretty clear that simply being crowded was not a legitimate reason for a ban. Common sense places like courts, government buildings, schools, voting places and hospitals are and will remain off-limits. Ocean county dealers/instructors are gearing up for qualifying once the exact requirements are sent down.
 
chicharrones said:
Texas is like that already. K through 12 schools are off limits, too. As is anyplace that wishes to put up the usual Texas 30.05, 30.06, and 30.07 signage. There's more I'm leaving out, simply because I don't want to look it all up right now.
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High school, professional and college sporting events. And the 51% rule, businesses that get more than half of their income from on-premises sale of alcohol. Hospitals and nursing homes and polling places during elections or early voting.
 
Shanvanvocht said:
SC prohibits carry in government buildings, school property, medical facilities, churches (except with the consent of the pastor), and public transportation (of which there is precious little) Carry in establishments that serve alcohol is permissible as long as you do not imbibe. Naturally, Post Offices and other Federal facilities are off limits. Private businesses cam prohibit carry on their property, but few do.
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You are also required to notify a homeowner you are armed before entering their residence.
 
DeepSouth said:
Where can't you carry in your state?
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That’d be places with metal detectors.
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That's the way I look at the carry problem. I carry anywhere I want except for places that check to see if I'm carrying with metal detectors. Everywhere else is just suggesting that I not bring firearms into their place. Those "No Guns" stickers don't carry the weight of law around here, the most that they can do is tell you to leave & bar you from coming back in. If you do return it they will get you for trespassing. I would rather be barred for life from a place than dead.
 
Big_Al said:
That's a new one on me
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SECTION 23-31-225. Carrying concealed weapons into residences or dwellings.

"No person who holds a permit issued pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 may carry a concealable weapon into the residence or dwelling place of another person without the express permission of the owner or person in legal control or possession, as appropriate. A person who violates this provision is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than one thousand dollars or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both, at the discretion of the court and have his permit revoked for five years."

This requirement carries the force of law. It is often overlooked and creates a legal and moral/ethical issue for CWP holders such as realtors, electricians, plumbers, painters, etc. who go into private residences on a regular basis. It's details like this that fostered my objection to South Carolina eliminating the minimum number of hours required for the CWP class. Too many instructors now rush through the training process. I would wager if you polled current CWP holders in South Carolina you would get a high percentage of responses similar to Big Al's.
 
Arkansas General Assembly said:
Except as permitted under § 5-73-322(g), a license to carry a concealed handgun issued under this subchapter does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into:
(1) Any police station, sheriff's station, or Division of Arkansas State Police station;
(2) An Arkansas Highway Police Division of the Arkansas Department of Transportation facility;
(3)(A) A building of the Arkansas Department of Transportation or onto grounds adjacent to a building of the Arkansas Department of Transportation.... [except rest areas and parking lots under some conditions]....
(4) Any part of a detention facility, prison, jail, or residential treatment facility owned or operated by the Division of Youth Services, including without limitation a parking lot owned, maintained, or otherwise controlled by: [plus Dept. of Corrections, Community Corrections, etc.]....
(C) A residential treatment facility owned or operated by the Division of Youth Services;
(5) Any courthouse, courthouse annex, or other building owned, leased, or regularly used by a county for conducting court proceedings or housing a county office unless: (A) The licensee is: (i) Employed by the county; ... [and a few other qualifiers]...
(6)(A) Any courtroom.
(B) However, nothing in this subchapter precludes a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon into his or her courtroom;
(7) Any meeting place of the governing body of any governmental entity;
(8) Any meeting of the General Assembly or a committee of the General Assembly;
(9) Any state office;
(10) Any athletic event not related to firearms;
(11)(A) [Certain places that serve booze] . . . .
(B) [Places posted that concealed handguns are prohibited] . . . .
(13)(A) A school, college, community college, or university campus building or event [with certain exceptions] . . . .
(14) Inside the passenger terminal of any airport, except that no person is prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the passenger terminal if the firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking the firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft;
(15)(A) Any church or other place of worship [unless the church or place of worship authorizes it] . . . .
(16) Any place where the carrying of a firearm is prohibited by federal law;
(17) Any place where a parade or demonstration requiring a permit is being held, and the licensee is a participant in the parade or demonstration;
(18)(A)(i) Any place at the discretion of the person or entity exercising control over the physical location of the place by placing at each entrance to the place a written notice clearly readable at a distance of not less than ten feet (10′) that “carrying a handgun is prohibited”.
(ii)(a) If the place does not have a roadway entrance, there shall be a written notice placed anywhere upon the premises of the place.....
(iv) Any licensee entering a private home shall notify the occupant that the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun.....
(20) A posted firearm-sensitive area, as approved by the Division of Arkansas State Police under § 5-73-325, located at:
(A) The Arkansas State Hospital;
(B) The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences; or
(C) A collegiate athletic event.

Ark. Code Ann. § 5-73-306 (West)
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Plan2Live said:
You are also required to notify a homeowner you are armed before entering their residence.
Big_Al said:
That's a new one on me
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Arkansas is the same way with regard to private residences. It's not even the homeowner we have to notify, but the person in control of the property. IOW, if it's a rental house, we have to notify the person living there if we enter the house with a concealed pistol.
 
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