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Last night I watched the movie again and saw something not noticed before. At the end, when Hanks shoots the guy in the bath tub......

He is using a 1911, the gun is in full profile, hammer down. He shoots the guy 3 times slowly; the camera shows, each time when he pulls the trigger, the hammer is already down, not cocked. You don't see the gun flash, but there is a flash from around the corner where the tub is. Hanks jerks the gun to simulate recoil (not enough for a 45 ACP).

So...if it was a Para Ordinance double action version of the 1911, we would have seen the hammer come back with the trigger pull, and the quick action of the slide. The 1911 is not striker fired.

So now, I think this scene was pure Hollywood, dummy gun, flashing light, and actor simulating recoil. Did anyone else notice?
 
Didn't notice, but you are likely correct.

I've seen many Hollywood errors involving firearms. Many of them are reverse angle shots which create ejection ports, controls, etc., on the wrong side of the firearm.
 
One I see commonly is they insist on inserting the sound of a ratchet when someone swings out a S&W style DA and rapidly spins the cylinder just before flicking the wrist and violently slamming it back in the frame. I suppose without that effect added it wouldn't sound "cool".
 
PWC said:
Last night I watched the movie again and saw something not noticed before. At the end, when Hanks shoots the guy in the bath tub......

He is using a 1911, the gun is in full profile, hammer down. He shoots the guy 3 times slowly; the camera shows, each time when he pulls the trigger, the hammer is already down, not cocked. You don't see the gun flash, but there is a flash from around the corner where the tub is. Hanks jerks the gun to simulate recoil (not enough for a 45 ACP).

So...if it was a Para Ordinance double action version of the 1911, we would have seen the hammer come back with the trigger pull, and the quick action of the slide. The 1911 is not striker fired.

So now, I think this scene was pure Hollywood, dummy gun, flashing light, and actor simulating recoil. Did anyone else notice?
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I caught that too.

My wife rolled her eyes at me
 
I hate when people learn about firearms from Hollywood. I was showing a guy my 329pd and he did the spin the cylinder, and slam it shut BS.
I couldn't get it back out his hands fast enough.
 
LaneP said:
One I see commonly is they insist on inserting the sound of a ratchet when someone swings out a S&W style DA and rapidly spins the cylinder just before flicking the wrist and violently slamming it back in the frame. I suppose without that effect added it wouldn't sound "cool".
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Or when they cock the hammer back on a Glock for emphasis.
 
Caplock said:
I hate when people learn about firearms from Hollywood. I was showing a guy my 329pd and he did the spin the cylinder, and slam it shut BS.
I couldn't get it back out his hands fast enough.
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After that stunt, if you did not bounce the butt off your revolver off of his noggin like Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russel) did to subdue Curly Bill…you are an oak.

I saw a clown doing that at a gun store counter over and over with a 642. The clerk just stood there. I winced, made my purchase, and left.

Stay safe.
 
PWC said:
Last night I watched the movie again and saw something not noticed before. At the end, when Hanks shoots the guy in the bath tub......

He is using a 1911, the gun is in full profile, hammer down. He shoots the guy 3 times slowly; the camera shows, each time when he pulls the trigger, the hammer is already down, not cocked. You don't see the gun flash, but there is a flash from around the corner where the tub is. Hanks jerks the gun to simulate recoil (not enough for a 45 ACP).

So...if it was a Para Ordinance double action version of the 1911, we would have seen the hammer come back with the trigger pull, and the quick action of the slide. The 1911 is not striker fired.

So now, I think this scene was pure Hollywood, dummy gun, flashing light, and actor simulating recoil. Did anyone else notice?
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Seems the only sort of gun they should have let Alec Baldwin use.
 
Riomouse911 said:
After that stunt, if you did not bounce the butt off your revolver off of his noggin like Wyatt Earp (Kurt Russel) did to subdue Curly Bill…you are an oak.

I saw a clown doing that at a gun store counter over and over with a 642. The clerk just stood there. I winced, made my purchase, and left.

Stay safe.
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I got a worse one,the guy working the gun counter at a pawn shop did the exact same thing.. with an old production python.
 
Most gun stuff is Hollywood effects these days, especially if they are pointing the gun at someone.

Be even more prevalent after Baldwin.

I do like in many of the Koran and Hong Kong movies they at least use airsoft (you can tell by the barrel) that at least work the slide. Some of better ones even do a decent job with CGI muzzle flashes and flying brass.
 
I have to confess that the scene where he shoots the pimp with that nickel plated Triple Lock is what got me interested in N frames. When I was much younger I saw the movie and wondered what that gun was so I looked at the IMFDB page. I had no knowledge of the 44 Special Smiths prior to this and that truly sparked my interest as it was totally new to me. My number one focus today in guns, N frames, can be traced to that scene.
 
In "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" when the main bad guy shoots Sean Connery from about 3 feet away with a PPK something similar happens. It makes sense they did not want to risk hurting Connery with a blank at that distance.
 
Chevelle SS said:
I have to confess that the scene where he shoots the pimp with that nickel plated Triple Lock is what got me interested in N frames. When I was much younger I saw the movie and wondered what that gun was so I looked at the IMFDB page. I had no knowledge of the 44 Special Smiths prior to this and that truly sparked my interest as it was totally new to me. My number one focus today in guns, N frames, can be traced to that scene.
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I know what you mean. Though I have no practical use whatsoever for it, I have a lever-action rifle in the safe because of Chuck Connors in The Rifleman from when I was a kid. Sadly, owning it didn't turn me into Chuck Connors.
 
My perpetual favorite is when a gun is fired, then seconds later it's racked for more noise and supposed cred, and of course, nothing is ejected.

But they think the racking makes it sound tough and scary.
 
Speedo66 said:
My perpetual favorite is when a gun is fired, then seconds later it's racked for more noise and supposed cred, and of course, nothing is ejected.

But they think the racking makes it sound tough and scary.
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Exactly! We don’t ever need to buy anything other than a pump shotgun for home defense, because we just need to rack it and that will do the job!
 
AZAndy said:
I know what you mean. Though I have no practical use whatsoever for it, I have a lever-action rifle in the safe because of Chuck Connors in The Rifleman from when I was a kid. Sadly, owning it didn't turn me into Chuck Connors.
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My brother and I bought a shot out 92 and had it rebarreled in 357 and a large loop lever with set screw made. I still have the rifle (24") but couldn't find the big lever in bro's stuff. I spun it once and buried the front sight in my shoulder. (unloaded). Connors was 6'6" and I'm 5'10" besides the barrel being such longer.
 
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