LOL!! You say "I and J frame guns," and I think of these...I also have Xtra Power Wolff springs in all my I and J frame guns. Heavy trigger, but reliable ignition.
What's the causal relationship?I see too many guys bobbing hammers then spending time and money chasing light strikes
If I had to guess, reduced hammer mass.What's the causal relationship?
I have seen it done incorrectly a few times, I have read about it here quite few. It seems to be both kitchen table and a few done by smiths. I would guess mass but don’t really know not having done it myself. I have seen it done properly and those always seem to retain at least a piece of the spur. I would never doubt someone who has done it and it works well. I just prefer not to mechanically modify a carry gun that is reliable. Like being your own mechanic you always worry about something not working reliably.What's the causal relationship?
This is absolutely true. I removed the SA pawl from this one when bobbing the (already broken) hammer to make it a true DAO. It won't cock single action at all but the DAO trigger is very nice and smooth, no staging, very little stacking.I've ground off several hammer spurs. All of the revolvers functioned just fine afterwards. I think the same energy is being delivered via the hammer from the spring either way.
If you just grind off the hammer spur Bubba-style and don't change anything else, it can still be fired SA if you really want to. Squeeze the trigger so that the hammer starts to rise, then you can cock it with your thumb even without the spur. I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be done, NP. Undoing it is the tricky bit.
You do not know what you prefer until you draw it?Only I know. Till I draw it. View attachment 1091344
Fully exposed hammer. M60 & M 337PD for many years.You do not know what you prefer until you draw it
If I had to guess, reduced hammer mass.
Do you know that before you draw it?Fully exposed hammer. M60 & M 337PD for many years.
I make my own holsters -- pancake style with high leather on the side against the body, which makes hammer snags almost impossible. I add Kydex reverse-J hooks to make these holsters useable as tuckable IWBs and that's how I usually carry my Colt DS.I carry in a pancake holster so having a hammer is a non issue. If a long shot is needed I could cock the hammer. Odds are against that but never assume anything.
I got it the first time. Some folks are just a little slow. Try to be patient. They can’t help being born a few fries short of a Happy Meal.Fully exposed hammer. M60 & M 337PD for many years.
I make my own holsters -- pancake style with high leather on the side against the body, which makes hammer snags almost impossible. I add Kydex reverse-J hooks to make these holsters useable as tuckable IWBs and that's how I usually carry my Colt DS.
I think you are overthinking this. If you are in a situation where a shooting is justified it does not matter one iota whether you fired single action or double. If on the other hand you accidentally shoot someone because you pulled the trigger when you were not supposed to then you are kind of screwed single or double action. I can understand for safety purposes that you don’t want an accidental discharge resulting in someone being injured and opt for DAO, that again is preference, legal justification not so much.The subject line in the OP spoke of a carry snub--a defensive revolver.
We have discussed this at length more than once in the past. There is a reason why police service revolvers for some departments were at one time limited to DA only. It is one main reason why most knowledgeable people advise that civilian defensive revolvers for civilian defensive carry be limited to DA only.
That reason has more than one facet, but the important ons is to eliminate the possibility that a plaintiff or criminal prosecutor can argue that the light single trigger pull weight could have contributed to a negligent discharge under stress. We can train to not use the SA feature, but if it was available, we cannot show that we did not use it.
On the criminal side is often easier to get a conviction for the lesser charge of manslaughter than for murder. On the civil side, the burden of persuasion is much lower than it is for a criminal conviction, and a unanimous jury verdict is not required.
I do not want that argument in a self defense case.
My snub barrel revolvers do not have a single action option.
My five inch L-Frame does have both DA and SA capability.
Of course, depending upon the carry method, a snag-free handgun may have another advantage.
But your claim may well not be accepted.....If you are in a situation where a shooting is justified...
After the fact it will be entirely in the hands of others....that again is preference, legal justification not so much.
It’s all about the draw and shot placement at some point. The “only police should be allowed to have guns,” crowd is very good at throwing wrenches and coming up with reasons why no “civilian” should be allowed to have a gun because we’re just too stupid, too clumsy, too flighty, too this, that and the other thing. I have both a hammer revolver Colt DS and a hammerless Rossi in my desk right now. The Colt is dead stock but pushing a century old; the Rossi is a DA/SA that was modified to DAO. Could a crooked cop or bent prosecutor make the case that the modified Rossi with reloaded ammo makes it illegal for me to use it against a home invader? Sure. And if I don’t get a good (expensive) lawyer, they’ll easily railroad me into prison. It’s not right but it’s possible. I don’t let the fact that there’s crooked public officials stop me from doing what I think is right. Maybe I should but then wouldn’t that be knuckling in to tyranny?I think you are overthinking this. If you are in a situation where a shooting is justified it does not matter one iota whether you fired single action or double. If on the other hand you accidentally shoot someone because you pulled the trigger when you were not supposed to then you are kind of screwed single or double action. I can understand for safety purposes that you don’t want an accidental discharge resulting in someone being injured and opt for DAO, that again is preference, legal justification not so much.