What is the untrue gun myth that irritates you the most

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My most/least favorite myth is that shooting an attacker further than 7 yards away opens you up to prosecution. I've been told multiple times that shooting someone at 25 yards is illegal and will get you arrested.

The second is that going up against an active shooter with a rifle using your CCW is suicide.

Funny how when the now infamous mall hero stopped an active shooter with an AR at 40 yards, all those folks have chosen to be silent.

Still waiting for him to be arrested.
 
dogtown tom said:
That sheriff is an idiot.
Get back to us when he actually arrests a federal agent who is performing his job duties.
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According to the Congressman they quote, the search was illegal. Therefore, it seems the sheriff would be in his rights to arrest the federal agents.
According to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, "The law enforcement powers held by the sheriff supersede those of any agent, officer, elected official or employee from any level of government when in the jurisdiction of the county."
 
dogtown tom said:
While witty, that doesn't disprove my statement.;)
If you want to see interesting stats, check out how many NICS denials resulted in federal prosecution.
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Very few that I am aware of. But governments in general have too much power. Mask mandates, lockdowns and school closings are three examples. And look what happened after Jan. 6th 2021. The feds threw anybody and everybody that was even remotely involved in jail, while ignoring real crimes that happened on that day.
 
tark said:
Very few that I am aware of. But governments in general have too much power. Mask mandates, lockdowns and school closings are three examples. And look what happened after Jan. 6th 2021. The feds threw anybody and everybody that was even remotely involved in jail, while ignoring real crimes that happened on that day.
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A government does not have to have the actual authority just has to claim it does and have the police power to enforce it as well as judges who will let them get away with it. It also helps a lot if the media plays along.
 
That guns ARE THE ONLY WAY TO COMMIT CAPITAL CRIMES. and that GUNS ARE NEEDED FOR HUSBANDS TO TERMINATE THEIR WIVES.
 
aaaaa said:
According to the Congressman they quote, the search was illegal.
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That Congressman is an idiot as well......it wasn't a search and even the most dimwitted federal agent knows that a search of the premises requires a search warrant. What you, the Sheriff and the Congressman are misssing is that ASKING QUESTIONS is not the same as a search. Good grief man, the agent was on his front porch....how the heck is that a search?o_O

Therefore, it seems the sheriff would be in his rights to arrest the federal agents.
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Thats laughable.
Any evidence uncovered during such a search could not be used in a criminal trial.


According to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, "The law enforcement powers held by the sheriff supersede those of any agent, officer, elected official or employee from any level of government when in the jurisdiction of the county."
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Yet the US Supreme Court disagrees.

You need better news sources.:rofl:
 
dogtown tom said:
That Congressman is an idiot as well......it wasn't a search and even the most dimwitted federal agent knows that a search of the premises requires a search warrant. What you, the Sheriff and the Congressman are misssing is that ASKING QUESTIONS is not the same as a search. Good grief man, the agent was on his front porch....how the heck is that a search?o_O
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Its harassment, and that is not good. I like these bills filed in Oklahoma and hope they all pass into law. More states should do this:
In response to the growing concerns over federal violations of constitutionally-protected rights, Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow, filed a trio of bills to strengthen the power of county sheriffs. Senate Bill 1199 would prohibit federal officers from carrying out any gun confiscation measures in Oklahoma. Senate Bill 1200 would require federal agents to notify the sheriff before operating in their county. Senate Bill 1201 would allow sheriffs to form posses to defend their county in times of emergency, disaster or from federal overreach.
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https://oksenate.gov/press-releases...s-arrest-feds-who-confiscate-guns-form-posses
 
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Jim Watson said:
"If you don't have anything to hide, why do you mind if I come in and look around?"
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That all by itself does not constitute "probable cause".

If a LEO says that to you and you say "NO." and he says: "Well, I'll get a warrant."

What evidence of a crime will he/she provide to a Judge for that search warrant? That you just said "no" to a warrant-less search?
 
aaaaa said:
Its harassment, and that is not good. I like these bills filed in Oklahoma and hope they all pass into law. More states should do this:

https://oksenate.gov/press-releases...s-arrest-feds-who-confiscate-guns-form-posses
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They can pass all the bills they want, none of which would actually restrict a federal LEO. Same for those that say silencers don't require a stamp in their state.
aaaaa said:
According to the Congressman they quote, the search was illegal. Therefore, it seems the sheriff would be in his rights to arrest the federal agents.
According to the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association, "The law enforcement powers held by the sheriff supersede those of any agent, officer, elected official or employee from any level of government when in the jurisdiction of the county."
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The "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Asso." is some phony group thrown together by some partisan nut jobs. That statement, that sheriffs have ultimate power, sounds like a version of the "sovereign citizens" group who claim they don't have to pay taxes.
 
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Speedo66 said:
They can pass all the bills they want, none of which would actually restrict a federal LEO. Same for those that say silencers don't require a stamp in their state.

The "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Asso." is some phony group thrown together by some partisan nut jobs. That statement, that sheriffs have ultimate power, sounds like a version of the "sovereign citizens" group who claim they don't have to pay taxes.
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Question:

What Constitutional grounds is the 1934 National Firearms Act based on?

The regulation of inter-State movement of firearms is within the Federal mandate according to the Constitution (interstate commerce), but if something (silencer, SBR, etc) is made in one State and never leaves that State, how does it become a Federal issue?
 
lysanderxiii said:
The regulation of inter-State movement of firearms is within the Federal mandate according to the Constitution (interstate commerce), but if something (silencer, SBR, etc) is made in one State and never leaves that State, how does it become a Federal issue?
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That is an excellent question and perhaps we will see an answer if this lawsuit by the Texas AG is ever settled. We in Texas are hoping the ruling is in our favor.
Headline:
AG Paxton Sues Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives for Unlawfully Prohibiting Firearm Silencers in Texas

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/news/releases/ag-paxton-sues-bureau-alcohol-tobacco-firearms-and-explosives-unlawfully-prohibiting-firearm#:~:text=Texas House Bill 957, passed,use without paying a tax.
 
lysanderxiii said:
Question:

What Constitutional grounds is the 1934 National Firearms Act based on?

The regulation of inter-State movement of firearms is within the Federal mandate according to the Constitution (interstate commerce), but if something (silencer, SBR, etc) is made in one State and never leaves that State, how does it become a Federal issue?
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If you earn all your money in one state, do you still have to pay Federal taxes?

I'm sure people who got arrested for making their own silencers may have never left the state with it.
 
aaaaa said:
"The law enforcement powers held by the sheriff supersede those of any agent, officer, elected official or employee from any level of government when in the jurisdiction of the county."
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As dogtown tom has pointed out, that is a ridiculous statement. It is the opinion of a Sheriff's organization claiming to be constitutional ... while obviously knowing nothing about said document.
 
Speedo66 said:
They can pass all the bills they want, none of which would actually restrict a federal LEO. Same for those that say silencers don't require a stamp in their state.
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I guess we lost control when they ditched the Articles of Confederation some 2.5 centuries ago. ;)

The "Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Asso." is some phony group thrown together by some partisan nut jobs. That statement, that sheriffs have ultimate power, sounds like a version of the "sovereign citizens" group who claim they don't have to pay taxes.
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I don't know if they are a phony group or just trying to clarify the purpose of county sheriffs. Else what need for county sheriffs if we have state police and urban counties have city police too.
 
aaaaa said:
I guess we lost control when they ditched the Articles of Confederation some 2.5 centuries ago. ;)


I don't know if they are a phony group or just trying to clarify the purpose of county sheriffs. Else what need for county sheriffs if we have state police and urban counties have city police too.
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Their original job was tax collection. Also serving court process, and later, operating county jails.

These were things state and city police didn't do. Certain of their jobs do overlap with other agencies at this point. Since they are elected officials, politicians, I guess they will say whatever they want.
 
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