Can you spot the new family member? (the revolver family)

45 Dragoon said:

Hey!!! I worked on that Walker!! ( that's also the first red dot sight I had ever seen!! Lol)
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Mike

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Who am I to argue with innovation!

hawg said:

Well it's not exactly a fine detail. RM didn't convert 1851's. They converted 1861's so the octagonal barrel is not historically correct.

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The absolutely did convert 1851's with the original octagon barrel.The Richards conversions were only applied to the 1860. Richards-Mason conversions were applied to everything else.

Ugly Sauce said:

Come on you guys, now I can't un-see it. Dang.

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Here you go, the eyewash station is right this way…

CraigC said:

The absolutely did convert 1851's with the original octagon barrel.The Richards conversions were only applied to the 1860. Richards-Mason conversions were applied to everything else.

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Well I guess you learned me something today.

hawg said:

You mean sumpin like this?

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Aww man, that just ain't right!

That Walker was purpose built from a kit and is purely a hunting machine . The whole thing was nitrited, a 3rd Model Dragoon (I think) loading lever and latch added and of course . . . the rail and sight. The builder was Hovey Smith and several videos were made concerning the build. It was "deemed" The Super Walker!!






Mike

hawg said:

Or you cold go with a Richards Mason. Not just a conversion cylinder but a full on factory build. Mine isn't historically correct but it does have a .357 bore and is chambered for .38 special.

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The revolver pictured is an Open Top.with the S lug barrel. When Colt started making conversions out of the unsold percussion guns and thousand and thousands of existing rough and finished parts they had enough barrels. As they worked through this existing inventory they finally ran low on barrels. They started making the S lug barrel that had no provision for the loading ram as these guns were made to shoot cartridges only. The 1871-72 Open Top used the same S lug style barrel and no conversion ring which included the loading gate.The loading gate on the 1871-72 Open Top is frame mounted. The era of the cartridge conversions is fascinating to me as they were built at the same time as the cartridge revolvers spanning 1869 to 1879. Between the Colt's and the Remington's there is enough variations to keep a collector busy for years.

Quick note on replacement cones. I used a set of correct Amco's(for Euroarms) and for some reason that R&S wouldn't fire two of them as they were a trifle too short. Don't know if it was the cones or a problem with that particular gun. I replaced them with Slix-Shots that were made for Piettas, which as mentioned are the same thread size but a bit longer. Problem solved.

Gaucho Gringo said:

The revolver pictured is an Open Top.with the S lug barrel. When Colt started making conversions out of the unsold percussion guns and thousand and thousands of existing rough and finished parts they had enough barrels. As they worked through this existing inventory they finally ran low on barrels. They started making the S lug barrel that had no provision for the loading ram as these guns were made to shoot cartridges only. The 1871-72 Open Top used the same S lug style barrel and no conversion ring which included the loading gate.The loading gate on the 1871-72 Open Top is frame mounted. The era of the cartridge conversions is fascinating to me as they were built at the same time as the cartridge revolvers spanning 1869 to 1879. Between the Colt's and the Remington's there is enough variations to keep a collector busy for years.

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That's what I was thinking of when I said the barrel was wrong. Mine does have the S lug barrel and it even has the 1871, 1872 patent dates. It was the 71-72's that used the round barrels of the 1860 and 1861.

The 1851 never had the S-lug barrel. The 1860 Richards-Mason and the Open Top were the only guns to have the S-lug barrel.