New muzzleloader before season? Which one?

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.38 Special said:
I do understand the reticence with flintlocks. From the outside, they can seem intimidating. (They're not, and I encourage everyone to find out for themselves.)

Beyond that, I will say that inlines are responsible for more headaches than any other style of BP gun and I encourage nearly everyone to avoid them. (If you have to have a scope and are hoping for a 200 yard hit with a handgun bullet in a sabot, then buy an inline, and good luck to you.) My recommendation to everyone else is to find a caplock, buy a book, and get started the right way.
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I know my BIL had fits with his. If I had a dozen inlines I'd use them for mater stakes.
 
Hugger-4641 said:
Don't know what kind of inlines he's using, but If you can't use a Wolf or Optima without issues, you probably don't need to play with any other black powder guns.
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I really don't know but I'm sure whatever it was it wasn't cheap.
 
Civil War rifle musket. I'd go with a 24" barrel cavalry carbine.
 
hawg said:
I thought you said you were a purist? Purist and inline don't belong in the same sentence. If was me I'd go with a Lyman Great Plains.
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I have to agree with hawg on this. If you don't think you can work a flinter then at least get a percussion sidelock. They are almost fool proof. And you don't have to stoop to using an inline. My next BP rifle is going to be a flintlock. Probably a Pedersoli Kentucky in .45 caliber.

Wanted to add that there is a bunch of information on shooting flintlocks. There is no mystery as to how they work or what it takes to make them reliable. Remember the woods were full of hunters and soldiers who couldn't read 300 years ago who had no trouble at all using flintlocks.

The only flintlock I have ever shot was fired with a flint I made myself. Its just not that hard to do.
 
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alsaqr said:
i've owned an Encore muzzleloader since 2005. After buying the new extractor that turns sideways, new stronger hammer spring and having the receiver welded up and machined to eliminate barrel side play; it's a good gun. Three of the five centerfire rifle barrels i bought had excess headspace.
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If you had that much trouble, why did you keep going back at least 5 times?
My experience has not been similar to yours, nor has numerous folks I know personally, thanks to someone or something.
 
hawg said:
I knew what you meant. I was funnin with you hence the smiley face.
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I knew that you knew… since I’m about the lone ranger when it comes to bullet guns! On some forums you can become unpopular for mentioning anything but the Holy round ball…
 
Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
why did you keep going back at least 5 times?
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i did not go back five times. I bought the rifle and barrels at the same time, along with five scopes. Yep, the ramrod thimbles were loose too.

First inkling that something was wrong, i was firing the Encore muzzleloader at the Fort Sill range. i changed to the .30-06 barrel. The gunsmith at the adjacent bench said "you will probably have a misfire". He was right the firing pin spring was too weak to fire a .30-06 round.

i know several people who had problems with their Encores. Bellms made an industry out of fixing Encore problems.

My rifle is good now.
 
JmacD said:
I’m after a new muzzleloader before black powder season. I’m wondering what to get. I’m a purist, so I’d love to use a flintlock, but I don’t have the time to dedicate to really put one through its paces. I’ve determined to go inline with a flintlock in the future. That said, any thoughts? I’ve shot, and liked the budget friendly(and a lot of value for money imho) TC impact, but it’s gone now it appears… I’ve hunted with a borrowed traditions, but it’s a shorter barrel, and accuracy seems to fall off. I’m liking the looks of the Accura LR, but curious if anyone has ever used them?
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Yes to the Acurra LR I bought one for my nephew. It's by far the best I've used. But it's also the most expensive.
 
larry7293 said:
What happened to the Lyman blackpowder rifles? None in stock?
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My LGS just put one in the display rack around three weeks ago He said it's for the inline shooter that didn't pay attention and bought a tag for our primitive rifle only hunt and discovered his mistake at the last minute. Says it happens every year.

If, and it isn't going to happen, I developed an interest in an inline I would just get a barrel for my Encore.
 
gotta love the "purists" ... I have room for all types in my toy chest... flint,cap,209 inline- traditional etc
I have t/c tunder hawks that shoot great- renegades and hawkins and a great plains flinter...I have a traditions pursuit I haven't shot yet but it looks like it will be great. I don't limit my toys...
 
tallpaul said:
gotta love the "purists" ... I have room for all types in my toy chest... flint,cap,209 inline- traditional etc
I have t/c tunder hawks that shoot great- renegades and hawkins and a great plains flinter...I have a traditions pursuit I haven't shot yet but it looks like it will be great. I don't limit my toys...
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I'm in your camp:cool:
My hat's off to the true blue BP guys, they've got thier place, but I've got a place in my bag for just about any kind of weapon:cool:
 
tallpaul said:
gotta love the "purists" ... I have room for all types in my toy chest... flint,cap,209 inline- traditional etc
I have t/c tunder hawks that shoot great- renegades and hawkins and a great plains flinter...I have a traditions pursuit I haven't shot yet but it looks like it will be great. I don't limit my toys...
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I like the traditional but I have nothing against anything. Just so it goes BANG
 
I recommend TC anything, I've hunted with my Encore for years with no complaints. Also use a sidelock (New England, Renegade, or Hawken) with success over the years.If you want a good used one I suggest looking at Kittery Trading Post's website. They have a lot of good used sidelocks or inlines.As well as new.
 
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