M1 carbine for hog hunting?

Yea but a .22 long rifle would too the m1 is pretty anemic caliber not even a good man stopper imho

A Carbine should be fine, if sighted in with the right ammo and the shot placed correctly.

When you say proper ammo would that not be some good brand of FMJ?
In Texas the wild pigs have a sort of armor on their chest from going through brush all the time. So, you would want something that penetrates that heavy callous layer if shooting from into the front of the animal.

I am a big fan of the M1 carbine and the .30 cal.cartridge. It is in fact an excellent manstopper. BUT given a choice between a 20 ga. slug and the carbine I will opt for the 20 guage.when it comes to hogs.

20 gauge slugs over .30 carbine. Feral pigs are resilient but they are not armor plated, proper ammunition will put them down. Ditch the 30 Carbine idea if you want them to go down within your county.

in east texas they don't get real big. we've dropped them with a 357 loaded with lead (pretty much the same ballistically as a 30 carbine w/ lead) as well as 30/30, sks, 243, 270, 30/06. sometimes they run off and die, sometimes they just fall over. they're not a super animal and die like pretty much everything else. use the carbine. if shooting jacketed, aim for the vitals or the head.

Anything under a .50 BMG is not advised.

Younggunner said:

So do you think I should stick with the 20 gauge slugs till I can find a bigger gun?

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If you are already using 20ga slugs you are miles ahead of an M1 Carbine in terms of stopping power.

Could you get an SKS instead? Half the price, and the round has more punch.

IMHO , the .30 Carbine is a little light --- the 20ga. with SLUGS is a better choice. Please see the link below for much more info on hog guns/loads;
http://www.texasboars.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=5f8583ac661169b39a708457fecac281

aim for the vitals or the head.

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With a .30 Carbine?

Vitals yes.
Head no.

A friend of mine once got treed by a big ole boar. He tried shooting it in the head with his 1911 loaded up with 230gr FMJ's. Hit that sucker in the top of the head 5 times to no effect before he thought to aim for the neck behind the head. The head shots just bounced off and made the boar madder. The shot behind the head did the trick.

Skinned the head. You could see where the bullets hit. A couple made some shallow trench like wounds, a couple more chiiped the bone and one even cracked the skull. Like I said all that did was piss the sucker off even more than he already was.

No hogs head is going to stop a .30 carbine bullet going 1,900 FPS.
Heck my daddy shot 200 pound butcher hogs in the head with a .22 rifle.
One shot, one kill, every time I saw him do it.
http://www.brassfetcher.com/30carbineFed110grSP.html

http://www.brassfetcher.com/30carbineLCFMJ.html

As for a .45 ACP bouncing off?
I'd have to see that too unless the shots were at a very shallow angle!
They ain't that hard to kill.

rc

hogshead said:

... the m1 is pretty anemic caliber not even a good man stopper imho

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Depends greatly on the ammo choice: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19956

Werewolf is right about headshot with that 1911 an FMJ ammo. They can an
often do just bounce off hard bone like that, they don't come back at you, they
just follow around the skull part way an exit, remember the skull bones on most animal
are not flat, but rounded, angling the bullet of 1911's......This isn't a guess, this is
a fact because I've seen it, with my own weapon on certain animals...I was surprized by it, but its true.....Carbine for hogs....YA!!! Load that 30 rd. magazine an have at it, put
several bullets in there....not everything has to be "one shot, one kill"......sometimes
rapid fire is alot of fun too!!!!!!

30 carbine bullet in the earhole will drop it dead! What barrel are you running the slugs through? If you have a rifled barrel and are shooting saboted slugs I would just stick with that.

I keep an M-1 for HD. I think it's ideal for this role, but I'm shooting at targets a whole lot closer. I honestly think if I was trying to drop a hog I would want something bigger. I like the above suggestion that you look at an SKS.

As for a .45 ACP bouncing off?
I'd have to see that too unless the shots were at a very shallow angle!
They ain't that hard to kill.

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Many years ago I shot an armadillo at fairly close range with a 5" 1911 loaded with 230 FMJ. The critter was running at the time. Upon impact, he immediately curled up like a doodle bug, did about 4 interesting little rolls, re-deployed his feet and kept right on running. My buddy and I looked at each other in disbelief. Now, the little critter may have run down a nearby hole and expired, but he may not have, either.

I'm a 1911 guy, and I carry one of mine to this day at my east Texas ranch specifically for hogs. I sure ain't planning head shots, that's for sure.

-Matt

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No hogs head is going to stop a .30 carbine bullet going 1,900 FPS.
Heck my daddy shot 200 pound butcher hogs in the head with a .22 rifle.
One shot, one kill, every time I saw him do it.
http://www.brassfetcher.com/30carbineFed110grSP.html

http://www.brassfetcher.com/30carbineLCFMJ.html

As for a .45 ACP bouncing off?
I'd have to see that too unless the shots were at a very shallow angle!
They ain't that hard to kill.

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RC The voice of knowledge, as always!

Why is it when questions are asked about using inadequate calibers for hunting (and I think the 30C is light for any big game hunting) people always say "With good shot placement this underpowered round will do the job...?"

Are hunters using calibers of sufficient power NOT advised to make proper shot placement?

BTW- I would have no problem using the 30C as a close range personal defense rifle. Men are not nearly as tough and hard to knock down as are wild animals.

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Why is it when questions are asked about using inadequate calibers for hunting (and I think the 30C is light for any big game hunting) people always say "With good shot placement this underpowered round will do the job...?"...

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Maybe because (generally speaking) shot placement can make up for poor bullet performance better than bullet performance can make up for poor shot placement.

I personally live by the "Bring enough gun (or more)!" rule anyway, but I also understand where the shot placement comments come from.

Just nuke em from orbit....

Sheesh, we put down humongous bulls with a 22 to the forehead.

go for it, and heck, if the first one doesn't work, put another and another till the dang thing cant walk cuz of all the lead weighing it down. and if 15 rounds doesn't do it, ram the gun in his mouth and get out a pocket knife.