Originally posted by SAM1911
Amazing how many people, even HERE, will toss out a line like, "Why, if you'd just DISARM yourself, everything would be fine!"
Originally posted by unloved
How about knives and drinking? Pens and drinking? Pool cues and drinking? Heavy glass beer mugs and drinking? Hands, elbows, knees, and feet and drinking? The world is full of objects that could be used as deadly weapons.
You know a lot of people here believe in the right to carry, including myself and my family. I also believe in others rights to carry. However what I'm seeing here is I'll exercise my rights over exercising discretion. Sam you say that I think people should disarm themselves and everything will be OK, what I'm saying is guns and alcohol do not mix. There are many reasons I say this, like how anti's jump all over the news immediately after a firearm incident occurs, even the most minute of circumstances. Your lack of discretion could essentially be the basis for a new law to be passed due to someone else's bias. So yeah, there are certain times you should disarm yourself.
Unloved you claim that the world is full of objects able to be used as weapons.
#1 I was a bouncer for almost 10 years, I have a pretty good idea about that concept.
#2 Many people on this forum are fond of the saying, "God created man, Colt made them equal.". Well your claim that the world is full of weapons so what does it matter who carries where is essentially the same thing as saying, "Well I've got a knife and he's got a gun so it's fair.". Are you going to stop carrying now because the world is full of improvised weapons?
#3 Anything that could impare your judgement coupled with something with a great responsibility like carrying a firearm do not mix, period. If it did then you probably other mind altering substances are alright to futz around with while carrying as well.
#4 I didn't say you can't go into a restaurant ad have a glass of wine while carrying, alcohol affects people differently based on weight, prior alcohol consumption and how long it takes to absorb into the body (i.e. people with full stomachs absorb alcohol slower).
The bottom line is we're allowed to carry, it's our right, but it's a right given to us based on the trust that we can exercise caution. Putting yourself in a place that serves primarily alcohol is the same as me going to a bar after an alcohol intervention and saying, "HEY GUYS! I'm just here to watch!". While there are exceptions they're few and far between and it's not a good idea.
