Glocks aren't the best.....

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The Glock fanboys just think so. After reading numerous highly entertaining threads on the merits of Glocks I started thinking, "what is behind this Glock obsession, surely psychology of some sort". This article helped me understand fanboys better and now the endless Glock threads will be even more absurdly entertaining.:D

Of course there are many different fanboys, not just Glockies, they just seem the most fanatical.

Can't We All Just Get Along: The Psychology of Fanboyism
Written by Eugene Kim on Friday, March 16, 2007Eugene Kim discusses whether fanboys are born that way, or make a concious choice. Is fanboyism curable?

Look at any blog entry or message board post nowadays about, say, a new Microsoft product, and the responses always follow a fairly predictable pattern:


Sephiroth14829: this is pretty cool now it will be harder to write windows viruses

BloJobs99: maybe now winblows will be as secure as MAC HAS ALWAYS BEEN lol

Sephiroth14829: my friend once bought a mac and he had to return it b/c wouldnt boot one day so all macs suck i would never buy a mac and there so bad their all just looks

BloJobs99: what kind of dum name is internet explorer????? i use safari

ILoveTheSmellofMyOwnFarts85: use linux...oh wait your all corperete sellouts LOL


In place of Windows, MacOS, and Linux, you can of course substitute Wii, PS3, Xbox360; Bush, Clinton, Perot; or PSP, DS, and...N-Gage; and the result would be the same: rampant drooling fanboyism. I used to be perplexed at how angry people would get about something as trivial as a game system; it's not like your DS ever saved your life, or your PSP ever baked you cookies. You had to pay money for the "privilege" of buying them. What is there to get so worked up about?

Back in 1968, two researchers (Knox & Inkster) surveyed bettors at a horse race. All bettors either had already put down a $2.00 bet, or were about to put down a $2.00 bet. On a 7-point scale, both groups of bettors were asked to rate their confidence of their chosen horses' chances of winning. The average estimate of those who hadn't yet bet their money was 3.48. And the average estimate of those who already had bet? 4.81. Many subsequent studies have confirmed this phenomenon (I won't go into them, for the sake of brevity), and the results are startling, if you understand the implications. Something happens in people's minds that makes them more confident about their choices AFTER those choices are made.

People always want lots of options, but choices are a double-edged sword. You may have a lot of alternatives, but everyone knows that even after making a particularly difficult decision, the agony is far from over. What if I chose that other college? What if I bought that other car? These unpleasant "what-ifs" are called post-decisional dissonance, and the way your brain deals with this angst is to change the way you feel about the choice that you DID make. In other words, you start to like your own choice more.

You're standing at Best Buy and you can buy a DS or a PSP. You don't have enough money for both. Let's say you choose the DS. You eagerly take it on the train and see someone watching a movie on a PSP. Your DS can't play Lords of Dogtown. Uh oh, post-decisional dissonance. But instead of thinking "Crap, I'm such a retard and bad decisionmaker, I should just sterilize myself with a fork," you're going to deal with it by thinking "Look at this ******* who paid thirty bucks for a UMD." And then you're probably going to post it on the Internet. It's important, though, to remember that nobody consciously decides to inflate the merits of their own choices; it's your brain that makes you "feel" more strongly about them. The more difficult the choice, the more this is necessary - that's why you'll never see a PSP vs. Gizmondo flame war.

Let's face it, even the staunchest advocates among us can grudgingly agree that all the major game systems are great consoles. It's a wonderful time for the industry, and the stiff competition is driving some pretty innovative and compelling stuff. But as long as there are choices, the 90% of us living from paycheck to paycheck will always be faced with a difficult purchasing decision, and fanboys will converge on the Internet like ants to a gumdrop. Regardless, perhaps someday, we will stop talking of our game systems like Vietnam War platoon mates and start treating them like the mass-produced chunks of plastic and silicon that they are.

Well, a guy can dream.
 
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Hate to break it to you but there are more than just Glock fanboys.

I would stop pigeon holing Glock fans and look at the bigger picture.

There are those out there with certain opinions. Deal with it.

And while I am at it I know Glocks arent the best. Neither are CZs, Colts, Kimbers, Springfields, Smith and Wessons, Tauri, or any other manufacturer.
 
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We live in a society where many people think that their material possessions and choices define them as people. Oh....I don't want a "silver" ipod, that's just not me....I NEED the "blue" one to represent who I am.....

As a result, there are lots of "my stuff is the best" type discussions in all facets of all hobbies/activities. Go read a radio controlled forum, or a golf forum, or a car forum....they all follow the same pattern that you see here.

Glock makes a quality product, as do many other manufacturers. How many glock love/hate threads can one place tolerate?

Can we just move on?
 
Every gun has its "fanboys" and none are exempt. Neither is any gun "perfect" or ideal. All have their shortcomings. The Glock is a good, solid pistol. If it weren't, it would have fallen by the wayside in its infancy. I don't care for the Glock because I can't seem to get the right grip on it, but that's a personal reason and has no place in a discussion on the strenghts and weaknesses of the design. Joe or Bob may find that it fits their hands to a T, and to them I say...Carry on and be well.
 
^^^ +1 on Glocks just don't fit my hand either. I am sure they are all just fine other than typical mass produced handguns, sometimes you get the bad one. This thread is as worthless as any other thread that bashes makers, ie. Kimber. I have a Kimber and love it, it fits my hand and have had 0 problems with it. But yet some people just want to bash on it.
 
earlthegoat2 Hate to break it to you but there are more than just Glock fanboys.

I would stop pigeon holing Glock fans and look at the bigger picture.

There are those out there with certain opinions. Deal with it.

And while I am at it I know Glocks arent the best. Neither are CZs, Colts, Kimbers, Smith and Wessons, Tauri but the Springfields are .
There, I fixed it for you.
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:D
 
Glocks aren't the best.....
Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
But deriding someone for liking a particular weapon is kinda childish at best.

We all have our favorites and some folks don't mind telling everyone what they prefer.
Some folks even choose forum names like "ARLover" to let everyone know what they're a fan of. ;)



And for the record, yes, I like Glocks!
 
Every gun has its "fanboys" and none are exempt.
I've yet to see a fanboy base like the Glock fanboy base. I think in part it is because they are less expensive than many handguns, at least at one time. Therefore, many first time buyers own Glocks. These are among the most adamant "mine is the best" gun owners.

I too believe Glock is a solid foundation at least in the 17 abd 19. The Kabooms are, in my opinon, are a legitiment concern. I don't own a Glock, but would consider one of the 9mm's, if and when G4's are available.
 
I don't own a Glock, but would consider one of the 9mm's, if and when G4's are available.

Personally I wouldnt go with a G4. Mixed reports on them so far. And, feels like a cheese grater. G3 for me please.
 
earlthegoat2 Hate to break it to you but there are more than just Glock fanboys.

I would stop pigeon holing Glock fans and look at the bigger picture.

There are those out there with certain opinions. Deal with it.

And while I am at it I know Glocks arent the best. Neither are CZs, Colts, Kimbers, Springfields, Tauri, but the Smith and Wessons are .

this is fun!
 
Glock fanboys have nothing on the S&W fanboys.

The S&W fanboys are still under the impression that S&W makes decent revolvers!! Locks and cheap MIM parts mean nothing to them.

At least the Glock fanboys have a decent handgun to crow about, that doesn't cost a small fortune, and IS suitable for serious purposes. :) TJ
 
Glock = good utilitarian affordable handgun.
S&W = good utilitarian affordable handgun.
Springfield = good utilitarian affordable handgun.
H&K = good utilitarian but less affordable handgun.
SIG = good utilitarian but less affordable handgun.

There. Argument settled.
 
I would never own a blue iPod. Everyone knows black is the best color.

No. Black ones suck. My friend had a black one. He bought this music file from some guy who makes his own. the guy says he's very careful when he makes music files.
So my friend loaded this music file into the black iPod, and when he played the song, the iPod blew up in his hand. Apparently, the iPod was out of battery.:neener:
 
No. Black ones suck. My friend had a black one. He bought this music file from some guy who makes his own. the guy says he's very careful when he makes music files.
So my friend loaded this music file into the black iPod, and when he played the song, the iPod blew up in his hand. Apparently, the iPod was out of battery.:neener:

Obviously a problem with the files or the downloader, not the iPod. This is how internet myths get started. :evil:
 
Here is an answer for ya. Shoot what you like and the rest of us will all do the same. Who cares who made it or what caliber. Just have fun and be safe about it all.
 
I've never understood fanboys of any faction. Glocks are good, solid, and dependable tools. They'll never win in the looks department, but that's OK. Are they the best? No, but they fill a niche. ANYONE who puffs out and thumps their chest over a brand is kind of a fool, really. Unless you are the CEO, on the board of directors, own substantial stock in the company, or (for personal pride) works on the assembly line manufacturing the pistol, you really have no dog in this race. You can vote with your pocketbook and sing their praises as it is your right, but getting into an e-fistfight over a brand is...just silly:neener:

Heck, I've driven Fords and Chevy trucks. My wife owns a Toyota. I currently ride a Harley but will probably replace it with a Japanese bike. I carry a Glock sometimes. Sometimes it's a S&W revolver. I love the "soul" of a mechanical watch or finely tuned 1911, but I also respect the tool-like simplicity of a cheap digital casio or a Glock.

Use what works for ya. If the gun is reliable, fits your hand, goes bang out the business end when you pull the trigger, and doesn't when you don't...carry it and may the wind always be at your back:)
 
I personally prefer the way the M&P fits my hand compared to the Glock, but that doesn't mean that Glocks don't fit other people's hands better than M&P's fit them. Some people love Sigs a good deal but the one I tried (229) felt strange in my hand. Same goes for BHP (though CZ's fit as if they were molded around my hand). I'm going to say something next that will complete shock every single one of you: Not everyone has the same opinion about everything, and some things fit one person better than it fits another. :Neener:
 
Personally I do not like Glocks. I dislike them so much I refused to accept a free new G17 and G26.

BUT,

I am open minded enough that I will recommend a Glock to people that I think will benefit from them.


No, Glocks aren't the "best" and I admit I don't know what is. Unless the day comes that I have the chance to get experience with everything out there I will not know what (I believe) is the best.
 
Glocks aren't the best......

The Glock fanboys just think so. After reading numerous highly entertaining threads on the merits of Glocks I started thinking, "what is behind this Glock obsession, surely psychology of some sort". Found this interesting-http://www.modojo.com/features/20070316/214/cant_we_all_just_get_along_the_psychology_of_fanboyism/

Helped me understand the Glock fanboys better and now the endless Glock threads will be even more absurdly entertaining.

Just my personal take on the GLOCK vs. The World threads/debates/etc.

Some people just enjoy conflict, they like to argue, they like to stir the pot, they like to watch people defend or attack something. Most of these threads, including this, seem to be designed for that purpose. Very few discussions about GLOCK pistols have the genuine premise for a knowledgeable, honest and meaningful discussion.

Most of the GLOCK vs. threads, like this one, are about pointing fingers, using stereotypes, and stirring the pot. Both "sides" are at fault, both sides know what they are doing. I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't have an opinion, I'm saying that you do the community a disservice by making and participating in threads like this one, which sole purpose is to tear down something/someone/some group of people.
 
Glocks are fine. I have never owned one, but shot them a bit. They are worthy of at least some of the adulation that people give them. I guess the reason I haven't owned one yet is that I can find handguns at a cheaper price point that do 99% of what a Glock can do. Someday I might pick one up though.
 
I have never owned a glock, and have only fired about 50 rounds through two different guns (a 9mm and a .40) and both, in my opinion functioned well.

But... a good buddy of mine is a smith, and builds some very nice custom 1911's (I could never afford the guns he makes....) and when he goes out at night, do you know what he carries? A Glock.

That is good enough for me. I will own one someday.
 
I also agree that this arguement is really childish! How many 1911 lovers have you heard talking down about these "little plastic toys?" Every weapon has a fan base. Yes I'm a glock owner and i like it because it works for me!

and just to settle it... NO gun is perfect! If it were it would always shoot 1" groups from 100 yds
 
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