The correct name for 30.06 ?

"thirty zero six"

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it was accepted by the United States military in 19aught6 not 19zero6..

Its a 30 cal..... released in 1906.

30.06

Ought is an old english expression for "zero".

My great-great grandfather isn't around to ask how it caught on, but it did.

If you want to be so esoteric that being correct is more important than people knowing what the heck you are talking about, you can call it the 7.62x63.

ought means zero

i have always said ought

edit - you guys are fast

Because zero represents a quantity of nothing, and aught means nothing, so people say aught to represent zero, which is nothing (sort of). As far as I know ought usually means should, not nothing.

watch a few english football matches... ought = nil = zero

It's not 30.06, though. That's a law code in Texas, I think.

It's .30-06 or .30-'06 Springfield, meaning .30 caliber, M1906 (the military designation of the original standard cartridge, adopted in 1906), Springfield Armory.

The etymology is ought comes from the word aught (meaning zero or nothing) which is an alteration of the words "a naught" being run together in English. At least that is what Merriam-Webster says.

It does remind me that every now and then I would hear some old timer call it "thirty-nawt six"

You are correct ArmedBear but unless you live in Texas 30.06 means nothing. When I first saw that being posted about I had to scratch my head until I learned they weren't talking about a caliber. Having said that though anytime I see 30.06,.30-06 or even .30-'06 I'm pretty sure a caliber of rifle is being talked about.

At least tennis players didn't have anything to do with it, otherwise it could be pronounced 'thirty love six'.

Although... The way some people talk about that caliber it might be appropriate.

I am a part-time/hobby mechanic and I deal with numbers and letters when determaning things and in engines , you got to be specific , and to me I call it "thirty zero six" .

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Well, don't be such a left-brained, math-minded robot. You need to get some art! 30-06 is as artful a name as you'll find anywhere.

I am prone to calling it the thirty-oh-six just to be different and to make sure the fellas are paying attention.

Sometimes I will say seven millimeter ought eight as well for the same reasons.

Seems like much ado about 'nothing' to me.

I always say "double zero buck" and people look at me weird

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...and well they should! lol

Say it like you want...but it is thirty-ought-six! You ought to know that...oughten you?

Back in nineteen and ought six.... you young guys just do not git it! lol

OK so if'n it's Thirty Ought Six because it was adopted in 19 ought six, why is it .45-70?

.45-70 was adopted in 1873

Well, the "70" was the grains of blackpowder used in the load.

So I guess the naming convention switched when they went to smokeless?

And no, it doesn't matter, but it's interesting.

The correct name is "United States Cartridge, Caliber .30, Model of 1906."

To further complicate the issue.
The 1903 Springfield for which the original 30-03 caliber was invented, was/is called the Oh Three or 03 Springfield. Not the Aught three, Naught three, or Zero three Springfield.
Then the cartridge was redesigned and the new 30-06 caliber adopted in 1906.

So you now have an Oh Three Springfield shooting a Thirty Aught Six.
Not the Thirty Oh Six.

Clear as mud, right?

rc

7.62 x 63

TexasRifleman said:

OK so if'n it's Thirty Ought Six because it was adopted in 19 ought six, why is it .45-70?

.45-70 was adopted in 1873

Well, the "70" was the grains of blackpowder used in the load.

So I guess the naming convention switched when they went to smokeless?

And no, it doesn't matter, but it's interesting.

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.30-30 is the anomaly then. First centerfire smokeless rifle cartridge (1894), yet the nomenclature would leave you to believe 30 grains of black powder. I don't think it was ever a black powder cartridge?

.30-30 is the anomaly then. First centerfire smokeless rifle cartridge (1894), yet the nomenclature would leave you to believe 30 grains of black powder. I don't think it was ever a black powder cartridge?

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It never was. But neither was the earlier .30-40 Krag. The .30-30 was the first commercial smokeless cartridge. The .30-30 used 30 grains of smokeless; the .30-40 used 40 grains.

I believe that it soon became apparent that there would be many kinds of smokeless powder, so powder weight no longer meant anything. The old BP naming convention was then dropped, and we ended up with cartridge names that are made for the trivia buff. They're not all that shooter-friendly, with a few exceptions.

If you were to ask someone who didn't know about rifles to sort .30-30, .30-06, .308 Winchester, .30 TC, .300 RCM, .300 WSM, .300 WinMag, .300 WbyMag, .300 SAUM, .300 RUM, etc. in order of velocity, it wouldn't be easy.

Speaking of Double Naught...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5aNn4Sfmas

Is it a scale a rule or ruler. Old time die maker.