10 Round Mag is it good enough

Why not have the extra magazine capacity?

As Jeff Cooper used to say, "There is such a thing as enough ammunition, and there is such thing as not enough ammunition. There is no such think as too much ammunition."

GambJoe said:

Once again hi-capacity, because of recent events, is becoming a dirty word in the media.

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Yeah....given what it looks like was used today, expect that one to rear it's ugly head again.....

10 rounds are enough. You will rarely need more than 2 or 3. If you can't solve the problem with 10 rounds you need instruction and practice. Magazine springs also last longer in lower capacity mags.

GambJoe said:

I own a Beretta a 96 (40 s&w) that came with ten round magazines. I've seen 15rd mags available for it, but are hi cap-mags needed for self defence.

I practice enough to consider myself competent but have no experiece's other than paper.

Any input?

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I hope so the magazines for my self-loader hold seven cartridges each.

I own a Beretta a 96 (40 s&w) that came with ten round magazines. I've seen 15rd mags available for it,

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Sorry, no. The 15 rd mags are for the Beretta 92 in 9mm, not .40. Your FULL capacity mags hold 11.

but are hi cap-mags needed for self defence?

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Quite possibly! You don't get to choose the number of badguys who may well be hopped up on drugs, time of day, distance, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. None of which lend themselves to least rounds fired.

I practice enough to consider myself competent but have no experiece's other than paper.

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Hell, EVERYONE is "competent" online! I would suggest finding an IPSC or IDPA match near you and shoot your carry gear and see how you do. Unless you win it the first time out and didn't learn anything new, then yes, you're probably very competent.

10 rounds are enough. You will rarely need more than 2 or 3. If you can't solve the problem with 10 rounds you need instruction and practice.

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Says who? Some nut on the internet? As stated above, you have next to zero control over many of the critical factors.

It's one thing to accept fewer rounds because you choose to carry a smaller gun. It's another thing to accept fewer rounds because some bureaucrat control freak decided YOU didn't "need" more than 10. (perhaps even citing drails post....)

And they are not "high" capacity magazines, they are FULL capacity magazines. 10 rd mags are "restricted" capacity.

10 rounds is about 3 seconds worth of shooting. I prefer to have an extra second or 2 before my gun goes empty, but if you prefer your slide to lock back 3 seconds into a gunfight it is your preference.

Why would you NOT want 5 extra rounds?

well, since MOST altercations end with 3 rounds or less fired, i suppose you only need the 3

I've never seen a 40S&W Beretta factory mag that held over 11 rounds. They hold 15 rounds in 9mm and 11 in .40. The 10 round mags from the AWB era are generally a little cheaper. I wouldn't worry about it for 1 more round.

10 rounds are enough. You will rarely need more than 2 or 3. If you can't solve the problem with 10 rounds you need instruction and practice. Magazine springs also last longer in lower capacity mags.

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With the same amount of shooting, comparing a 10 round magazine with a 15 round magazine, i would have to disagree... you would be reloading the magazine 50% more often than with the higher capacity mag.

In 900 rnds, you would reload a 10 rounder 90 times vs 60 with a 15 rounder. Seeing as those springs are worn out by compressing and releasing, i am gonna call bs on your statement.

The standard capacity for the .40S&W Beretta Model 96 is 11 rounds.
So, you are only losing one round by using the 10 round magazines.

my springer holds 6 in the mag and 1 in the chamber of .45 acp. i carry 1 extra mag on me and 1 in the vehicle.

personal preference. if you feel that you need an extra 5 rounds then go ahead and snatch em up. i would agree that you could never have too much ammunition on hand.

While I wouldn't necessarily feel undergunned with a 10-rd magazine, I would want to get a magazine with the highest capacity possible that didn't extend the grip of the weapon for carry purposes. 99.99% of the time, you won't need the extra round(s), but if you do, they'll be priceless.

Amidst your indecision, spare a moment to think of those living in states where 10 rounds is all they get regardless

Two loaded magazines plus one in the chamber = 21 rounds of firepower. Will the 15 round Mec-Gars extend below the grip frame?

PT1911 said:

well, since MOST altercations end with 3 rounds or less fired, i suppose you only need the 3

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Shhhh.....

Don't give California any more ideas.

the "3 shots fired" stat is WRONG.

Why?

Because it includes things like: AD's, warning shots, suicides, animal put-downs, etc. None of which should apply to YOUR deadly force encounter.

On Beretta's website www.berettausa.com they show 15 rounds as standard for 9mm and 12 rounds in 40. That is actually news to me. The one I had only held 11.

Everything being equal of course I'd rather have a few more rounds, but living through the AWB days taught me many lessons. At that time I sure wasn't going to pay $100 for an 11 shot mag when I could get 10 rounders for $20.

If I had plenty 10 round mags and didn't need new ones I'd live with 10. If I needed new ones and they were the same price I see no reason not to get the ones holding more rounds.

There is no such thing as too much ammunition, provided it doesn't make the gun unwieldy. However, in this case, even the standard/full/"high capacity" mags for this model only hold one more round. Still, for a gun you intend to carry and shoot a lot, you want more than just two magazines anyway ...

GambJoe, I am afraid you're not going to get an intelligent answer to your question from all of the "internet nuts" on this forum. PT1911, you are apparently of the opinion that magazine springs only fail or wear out from compression/relaxation cycles. There's a little more to it than it. DavidE - for all I know you may be an A class IPSC GrandMaster, but you post sounded like classic mall ninja nonsense to me. No offense.

This is laughable if not dangerous advice. If you can put 15 vs. ten rounds in the grip of your gun why not do it?