Looking for a folding knife for my Dad, 2.5" or less in length.

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I am looking for a knife for my Dad. He plans on carrying it.

Some towns and cities around here have ordinances that all carried knives be under 2.5" in length. So he needs a smaller knife, but he really wants a larger sized grip, something to really grab onto. He did not seem to like my SOG flash I very much (though I admit the grip shape on that is pretty crummy). He also wants a knife that locks open. $50 or under would be the budget.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks.
 
Spyderco Persistence isn't bad for the price. Handle is kinda beefy with the steel liners but it isn't too big. Blade length is around 2.25-2.33 inches if I remember correctly.
 
Thanks for the suggestion guys, but both of those blades are over 2.5" in length. It looks like Spyderco will soon be releasing a sister blade to the Persistence under 2.5" but it's not out yet.

I happend to find this helpful forum post that lists a bunch of folding knives under the required length:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/752120-List-of-2.5-quot-One-Hand-Opener-Knives

Right now the Kershaw OD-2 and the Kershaw Half Ton are catching my attention. I might go ahead and order him both.
 
Spyderdo does make some small blade to handle ratio knives, but if that's not to his liking look at a Myerchin. It is a German maritime knife company that I've liked a lot, but not talked much about.
 
@14Miles- Like JS said there is a smaller version, however I just checked the persistence specs and "blade length; 2 3/4 in. ". Technically it will fit your requirements.
 
Thanks for the suggestion guys, but both of those blades are over 2.5" in length. It looks like Spyderco will soon be releasing a sister blade to the Persistence under 2.5" but it's not out yet.

I happend to find this helpful forum post that lists a bunch of folding knives under the required length:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/752120-List-of-2.5-quot-One-Hand-Opener-Knives

Right now the Kershaw OD-2 and the Kershaw Half Ton are catching my attention. I might go ahead and order him both.
Give Dave an email at this address if your wanting any Kershaw or Zero Tolerance knives, [email protected]. His Blade forum name is "KershawGuy" and he has the cheapest prices on Kershaw blades that I've ever found and he ships super fast too. I like several of the Spyderco blades but most of their knives that are under $50 are made in China and I refuse to buy chinese made knives when I can get american made baldes for around the same price. That's just a personal opinion of mine though.
 
well there are a LOT of folding knives with a 2.5" blade for $50......


is there anything in specific that you think he would like......a certain blade style, handle material, ect. ?

How often do people get convicted under these ordinances without commiting an other crimes.

well technically.......they shouldnt( assuming its in the pocket and not in the open).............if the knife is not seen, no one knows to have it, so an officer has no reason to stop you for it, because they have no reason to suspect you have it............... theoretically.

but as we all know......police dont always follow 'proper procedure'
 
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How often do people get convicted under these ordinances without commiting an other crimes.

You must understand that any contact with a police officer can result in a Terry Stop pat-down for officer safety.

In my state caring a knife over our legal blade length( 4" ),with a few exceptions, is a felony.

If you wish to play the odds with a felony conviction go right ahead. I choose to follow the law and avoid complicating my life with an arrest, possible prosecution, and all the financial burdens that go along with them.
 
Buck Rush / Buck Vantage

For a little variety, there's the Buck Rush.

I have one. Robust little sucker. Sharp and pointy. Assisted open. Liner lock.

Blade is listed as "2.5 inches" but I seem to remember it measuring out to a fraction less than that.

The handle, however isn't any larger than it has to be, so you would want to evaluate that.

I've carried the Rush as EDC before. If you're around people who get nervous around blades that snap open "vigorously" it can, of course, be opened more slowly.


Now, I personally carry a Buck Vantage (large) and find that to be a lot of knife for a 3.25-inch piece. It's a pretty light knife for its size.

Buck makes this same knife in a "small" which has a 2.3-inch blade. This pattern is a one-hand-opener, having both a thumb hole and a "flipper" tab. Liner lock, of course.

The handle is flat, so it rides well in pocket (I removed the pocket clip from mine), however the handle is also wide, so it's easy to hold.

I carried a Vantage Small for a little bit, but found I missed the extra almost-inch that its bigger brother has, so I swapped it for the larger one.

They do it in three different steels: Select (420HC), Avid (Sandvik 13c26), and Pro (S30V). I prefer the Vantage Avid, as the Sandvik steel is one of my favorites.

 
You must understand that any contact with a police officer can result in a Terry Stop pat-down for officer safety.

In my state caring a knife over our legal blade length( 4" ),with a few exceptions, is a felony.

If you wish to play the odds with a felony conviction go right ahead. I choose to follow the law and avoid complicating my life with an arrest, possible prosecution, and all the financial burdens that go along with them.
How do you know its a felony where he's at though??? Here in Oregon it's only a misdemeanor and every single cop I've ever asked about the knife laws here in Oregon they've all said maybe if you already have a criminal history they might give you a ticket for it but you would basically have to be doing something pretty stupid for them to even search you let alone give you a ticket. There is no length law here it's just if you have an full auto or assisted opening blade your not supposed to conceal it. As long as the pocket clip is visible on the outside of your pants it's legal here.
 
You must understand that any contact with a police officer can result in a Terry Stop pat-down for officer safety.

In my state caring a knife over our legal blade length( 4" ),with a few exceptions, is a felony.

If you wish to play the odds with a felony conviction go right ahead. I choose to follow the law and avoid complicating my life with an arrest, possible prosecution, and all the financial burdens that go along with them.

My state doesn't have length restrictions, some local ordinances are in effect in Oklahoma, but the state government has preemption on weapons laws, so I don't know if they even enforce them anymore.

Also, you should fight that, knives are tools, not weapons.
 
If you wish to play the odds with a felony conviction go right ahead. I choose to follow the law and avoid complicating my life with an arrest, possible prosecution, and all the financial burdens that go along with them.

Earlier posts indicate OP lives in Massachusetts.

in MA, there is no restriction on blade length for generic folding knives

GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS
PART IV.
CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES.

TITLE I. CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS.
CHAPTER 269. CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC PEACE.

Chapter 269: Section 10. Carrying dangerous weapons...

(b) Whoever, except as provided by law, carries on his
person, or carries on his person or under his control
in a vehicle, any knife having a double-edged blade,
or a switch knife, or any knife having an automatic spring
release device by which thstiletto, dagger or a device or case
which enables a knife with a locking blade to be drawn
at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or any knife
with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by any
mechanism, dirk knife, any e blade is released from the
handle, having a blade of over one and one-half inches,

or a slung shot, blowgun, blackjack, metallic knuckles
or knuckles of any substance which could be put to the
same use with the same or similar effect as metallic
knuckles, nunchaku, zoobow, also known as klackers or
kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting of two
sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by a
length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any
similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person
when thrown, or any armband, made with leather which has
metallic spikes, points or studs or any similar device made
from any other substance or a cestus or similar material
weighted with metal or other substance and worn on the hand,
or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having weighted
ends; or whoever, when arrested upon a warrant for an alleged
crime, or when arrested while committing a breach or disturbance
of the public peace, is armed with or has on his person, or has
on his person or under his control in a vehicle, a billy or
other dangerous weapon other than those herein mentioned and
those mentioned in paragraph (a), shall be punished by
imprisonment for not less than two and one-half years nor more
than five years in the state prison, or for not less than six
months nor more than two and one-half years in a jail or house
of correction, except that, if the court finds that the defendant
has not been previously convicted of a felony, he may be punished
by a fine of not more than fifty dollars or by imprisonment for
not more than two and one-half years in a jail or house of correction.



Chapter 269: Section 12. Manufacturing and selling knives,
slung shots, swords, bludgeons and similar weapons; punishment.

Section 12. Whoever manufactures or causes to be manufactured,
or sells or exposes for sale, an instrument or weapon of the
kind usually known as a dirk knife, a switch knife or any knife
having an automatic spring release device by which the blade is
released from the handle, having a blade of over one and one-half
inches or a device or case which enables a knife with a locking
blade to be drawn at a locked position, any ballistic knife, or
any knife with a detachable blade capable of being propelled by
any mechanism, slung shot, sling shot, bean blower, sword cane,
pistol cane, bludgeon, blackjack, nunchaku, zoobow, also known
as klackers or kung fu sticks, or any similar weapon consisting
of two sticks of wood, plastic or metal connected at one end by
a length of rope, chain, wire or leather, a shuriken or any
similar pointed starlike object intended to injure a person when
thrown, or a manrikigusari or similar length of chain having
weighted ends; or metallic knuckles or knuckles of any other
substance which could be put to the same use and with the same
or similar effect as metallic knuckles, shall be punished by a
fine of not less than fifty nor more than one thousand dollars
or by imprisonment for not more than six months; provided,
however, that sling shots may be manufactured and sold to clubs
or associations conducting sporting events where such sling shots
are used.



GENERAL LAWS OF MASSACHUSETTS
PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT.
TITLE XII. EDUCATION.
CHAPTER 71. PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
Section 37H. Policies relative to conduct...

(a) Any student who is found on school premises or at
school-sponsored or school-related events, including
athletic games, in possession of a dangerous weapon,
including, but not limited to, a gun or a knife; or a
controlled substance as defined in chapter ninety-four C,
including, but not limited to, marijuana, cocaine, and
heroin, may be subject to expulsion from the school or
school district by the principal.

* * * *


10/1/04

Boston Municipal Code of Ordinances

16-45 PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF KNIVES OR SIMILAR WEAPONS.

16-45.1 Carrying of Weapons Prohibited.
No person, except as provided by law, shall carry on his person, or carry under his control in a vehicle, any knife having any type of blade in excess of two and one-half (2½ ) inches, ice picks, dirks or similar weapons that are likely to penetrate through police officer's ballistic vests, or other object or tool so redesigned, fashioned, prepared or treated that the same may be used to inflict bodily harm or injury to another, except:

a. When actually engaged in hunting or fishing or any employment, trade or lawful recreational or culinary activity which customarily involves the carrying or use of any type of knife, or

b. In going directly to and/or returning directly from such activities, or

c. If the knife is being transported directly to or from a place of purchase, sharpening, or repair, and if packaged in such a manner as not to allow easy access to the knife while it is being transported.

(Ord. 2001 c. 10) Penalty, see subsection 16-45.4

16-45.2 Distribution Exception.
This section shall not apply to persons who, through entities or establishments engaged in a recognized retail or wholesale business, are involved in the sale, purchase or repair of knives for trade, sport, hobby or recreation, including without limitation persons engaged in the transportation to or from such entities or establishments.

(Ord. 2001 c. 10)

16-45.3 Applicability.
Nothing in this section shall be construed to enhance or diminish any duties of persons described in subsection 16-45.2, and this section shall not be introduced or cited in any proceeding as evidence of negligence, recklessness, or similar state of mind of such persons.

(Ord. 2001 c. 10)

16-45.4 Penalty.
Violators of any provision of this section shall be subject to a fine of not more than three hundred ($300.00) dollars for each offense.


(Ord. 2001 c. 10)

16-45.5 Severability.
The provisions of this section shall be severable and if any section, part, or portion hereof shall be held invalid for any purpose by any court of competent jurisdiction, the decision of such court shall not affect or impair any remaining section, part or portion thereof.
(Ord. 2001 c. 10)

Massachusetts Case Law:
- "Knives described as 'kitchen knife,' 'folding type knife,'
and 'Swiss army knife' may not fall within category of
dangerous weapons." (1994)


only Boston has the 2.5" length requirement.....and its only a fine for each offense if found.
 
This thread on Northeast Shooters (2nd page) seems to suggest that other towns besides Boston (Lawrence) have similar local ordinances: http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/37516-MA-Knife-Carry-Law

Well, I have cancelled the order on the Cold Steel Mini Lawman (at no cost). I am going to explain to my Dad about the local ordinances and see what he thinks about it (if it is worth the risk of fine).
 
only Boston has the 2.5" length requirement

Also Lawrence, Cambridge, Revere, Lynn, Salem and Beverly

Worcester is 3"

I agree they are local ordinances with fines, not felonies as in my home state. But I do not feel like paying $300 for a fee if my knife is found be a LEO.

Heck I never even go 5 miles over the speed limit.:eek:
 
I agree they are local ordinances with fines, not felonies as in my home state. But I do not feel like paying $300 for a fee if my knife is found be a LEO.

now im not sure how often you have run-ins with the law.....

but for the last say 6-7years ive been carrying a knife regularly (clipped to my pants pocket/ in a sheath on my belt)......i have never once had a cop (or anyone else for that matter) question me about it....even in boston.

for the most part....police really do have better stuff to be doing than running down and questioning people who may or may not have an "illegal" knife.
 
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