browncoatdawn
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Would anyone be interested in a PS90 style carbine in .30 cal carbine or 7.62 Tokarev? Just wondering if I was the only one?
PS90 style carbine
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FIVETWOSEVEN
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Ammo isn't as common anymore for 7.62 x 25 and .30 carbine. 5.7 x 28 is a quite powerful especially out of a carbine.
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Granted you can't find 5.7 at Wal Mart but 7.62 x 25 is drying up, I haven't seen a spam can of that ammo in over a year and .30 Carbine has been uncommon already, good gunshops carry 5.7 in my experience.
1KPerDay
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lead core 5.7 rounds are no more harmful to properly hardened steel than lead core .223 is.
RevolvingGarbage
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7.62 Tok? Meh.
7.62x39mm? Hell yeah, put me down for three!
7.62x39mm? Hell yeah, put me down for three!
LibShooter
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It seems like .30 Carbine is a lot less scarce than it used to be... around here anyway.
However, it would seem somehow wrong to load "Sands of Iwo Jima" rounds into a "Blade Runner" looking carbine.
However, it would seem somehow wrong to load "Sands of Iwo Jima" rounds into a "Blade Runner" looking carbine.
browncoatdawn
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not so much
I have found that there are a few companies that carry 30 carbine, and the 7.62 tok.... even wincheser makes it here. I personally like the S&B stuff. If one were done in say, 9mm, as a more standard round, and also offered in 7.62 tok, it would be a great place to start. especially if the 9mm was built to take 9mm +p or +p+ all day long. This seems to be right in SBR territory as it was intended. The magazine would not work with more than a marginally tapered cartridge, so the x39 ammo is out. Too bad, I was hoping for a 5.45 version.
I have found that there are a few companies that carry 30 carbine, and the 7.62 tok.... even wincheser makes it here. I personally like the S&B stuff. If one were done in say, 9mm, as a more standard round, and also offered in 7.62 tok, it would be a great place to start. especially if the 9mm was built to take 9mm +p or +p+ all day long. This seems to be right in SBR territory as it was intended. The magazine would not work with more than a marginally tapered cartridge, so the x39 ammo is out. Too bad, I was hoping for a 5.45 version.
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A 9mm would be great, and I'd buy a 7.62 Tok if I'm not suddenly worried about it drying up. I do so want a tokarev...
Does it have to take the same style of magazines as the PS90? Make one that would take a Glock mag in the stock, without the PS90's price tag, and I can see plenty of the subgun fans grabbing them.
Does it have to take the same style of magazines as the PS90? Make one that would take a Glock mag in the stock, without the PS90's price tag, and I can see plenty of the subgun fans grabbing them.
Rob G
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^This. If they made a 5.45 version I'd buy one tomorrow.
RevolvingGarbage
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.300 AAC Blackout then perhaps?
Or 7.62x51mm?
I'm not real picky. Id take a 5.56x45mm even.
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As Browncoatdawn alluded to, you really need a straight-walled case to get any appreciable capacity out of a magazine similar to what the P90 uses. I honestly don't think the 7.62x25 would be a good candidate. The .30 carbine might also pose a problem after 20 rounds.
I'm a big fan of both the .30 Carbine and the 7.62x25, but the P90 does fairly well with the 5.7x28 from what I've read, especially considering the P90 is intended as a PDW and not any sort of battle rifle.
Even less appropriate but more appealing (to me) would be something akin to the 9x23 Winchester loaded with a slower-burning powder to make the most out of a 10+ inch barrel. However, considering the P90 is a blowback, I don't know how far that design can be pushed.
It's obviously an interesting concept, but if I were to purchase a P90, I'd likely want it in 5.7
I'm a big fan of both the .30 Carbine and the 7.62x25, but the P90 does fairly well with the 5.7x28 from what I've read, especially considering the P90 is intended as a PDW and not any sort of battle rifle.
Even less appropriate but more appealing (to me) would be something akin to the 9x23 Winchester loaded with a slower-burning powder to make the most out of a 10+ inch barrel. However, considering the P90 is a blowback, I don't know how far that design can be pushed.
It's obviously an interesting concept, but if I were to purchase a P90, I'd likely want it in 5.7
browncoatdawn
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With slight mods...
With slight mods to the magazine, I could see a 9mm, 40 cal, 10mm, and the tok round all used fairly easily. I dont know how to get around the more extreme taper on the 5.45 round, but I would love to figure it out.
Using the same setup, it would pretty much need to be a tuned and scaled ps90 magazine, as the glock style mag wouldnt keep all of the attributes that makes the basic firearm desireable to me. I could also imagine using a 38 super, but I am not sure how it would perform.
With slight mods to the magazine, I could see a 9mm, 40 cal, 10mm, and the tok round all used fairly easily. I dont know how to get around the more extreme taper on the 5.45 round, but I would love to figure it out.
Using the same setup, it would pretty much need to be a tuned and scaled ps90 magazine, as the glock style mag wouldnt keep all of the attributes that makes the basic firearm desireable to me. I could also imagine using a 38 super, but I am not sure how it would perform.
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