would you buy a 9mm revolver?
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WELCOME TO 2012 MR Van WINKLE ! ! ! ! 
I ain't signin' nuthin' if it ain't for a 6 shot, moon clip version with 4.2 barrel. Cause if it ain't I can't buy it or use it for my competition shooting. SO THERE! ! !
I ain't signin' nuthin' if it ain't for a 6 shot, moon clip version with 4.2 barrel. Cause if it ain't I can't buy it or use it for my competition shooting. SO THERE! ! !
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Don't think so. For me (ME) it would be rather pointless with the possible exception of a scenario of limited access to varied ammo and thinking I needed a revolver to compliment already owned 9mm autos (required ammo interchangeability).
BCRider
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For me it's not about ammo compatibility. I already own and shoot a number of .38Spl/.357Mag revolvers and a lever rifle. That ain't gonna change.
The point is that for using them in competition it is just way faster to both eject and load using short case ammo and moon clips. You just need to see any of Jerry Miculek's videos of his shooting to see just how fast it can be. It would be nice if the same advantages could be had in a cheaper to shoot ammo.
And those same factors that make it easier and faster to load in competition would serve well in defensive carry. In such a case 3 round half moon clips would replace the rather bulky full moon clips that would be used in competition. A couple or 4 half moon clips of 9mm would easily sit in a pocket without creating a bulge that's any worse than a pocket full of change that weighed the same amount. On top of this a dedicated cylinder intended for only 9mm could be a lot shorter and lighter than a .38Spl or .357Mag cylinder converted for 9mm.
The only real issue I could see with the use of 9mm in a J or SP size gun is that any of the factory 9mm runs chamber pressure that is well up around that for .357Mag and would produce muzzle velocities similar to that from .38Spl +P or +P+ ammo. So short of loaded down ammo suitable for such revolvers they would all have a fairly healthy kick. Not as bad as .357 Magnum but more punchy than .38Spl.
The point is that for using them in competition it is just way faster to both eject and load using short case ammo and moon clips. You just need to see any of Jerry Miculek's videos of his shooting to see just how fast it can be. It would be nice if the same advantages could be had in a cheaper to shoot ammo.
And those same factors that make it easier and faster to load in competition would serve well in defensive carry. In such a case 3 round half moon clips would replace the rather bulky full moon clips that would be used in competition. A couple or 4 half moon clips of 9mm would easily sit in a pocket without creating a bulge that's any worse than a pocket full of change that weighed the same amount. On top of this a dedicated cylinder intended for only 9mm could be a lot shorter and lighter than a .38Spl or .357Mag cylinder converted for 9mm.
The only real issue I could see with the use of 9mm in a J or SP size gun is that any of the factory 9mm runs chamber pressure that is well up around that for .357Mag and would produce muzzle velocities similar to that from .38Spl +P or +P+ ammo. So short of loaded down ammo suitable for such revolvers they would all have a fairly healthy kick. Not as bad as .357 Magnum but more punchy than .38Spl.
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ive long been hoping for a 9mm scandium j frame with internal hammer
great weight size and reliability plus it can be fired from jacket pocket
great weight size and reliability plus it can be fired from jacket pocket
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Wouldn't that be a .38 spl?
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Todays 9mm defensive ammo and proper training make me feel perfectly safe and well armed with my 9mm concealed carry handguns.
Agree here. Maybe if charter rolls with the supposed clip free bulldog in 9mm, but then I'd be buying a 357 or the 45 version anyway
It would kick like an S.O.B. -- but I'd be in on one also....
If you want to spend the money, Mark Hartshorne at Pinnacle High Performance can fix you up. He did the work on my 9mm scandium framed 360J a few years ago and I've carried it almost every day since. It's a great shooting gun and recoil is quite manageable, even with +P+ duty ammo. Also, in addition to 9mm, it will handle .38 Super, 9mm Largo, 356TSW, 9x23, etc.
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If you want to spend the money, Mark Hartshorne at Pinnacle High Performance can fix you up. He did the work on my 9mm scandium framed 360J a few years ago and I've carried it almost every day since. It's a great shooting gun and recoil is quite manageable, even with +P+ duty ammo. Also, in addition to 9mm, it will handle .38 Super, 9mm Largo, 356TSW, 9x23, etc.
Hmmm...Veddy nice...What would Mr. Hartshorne charge for a job like that?
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Rechambering, chamfering the charge holes, and cutting the cylinder for moonclips, chamfering the forcing cone, action job, 1/2 bobbed hammer, radiused and polished trigger, fiber optic front sight totaled just over $400, IIRC. I had Robar coat the cylinder with NP3 and finished it off with the CT LG105 grips.
When nobody makes what you want, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands. Thanks to Mark's help, I have the 13oz 9mm snubby I wanted even though S&W won't even consider building one. It's a great shooting gun and I haven't seen any appreciable loss of accuracy shooting 9mm's compared to .38Spl's.
When nobody makes what you want, sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands. Thanks to Mark's help, I have the 13oz 9mm snubby I wanted even though S&W won't even consider building one. It's a great shooting gun and I haven't seen any appreciable loss of accuracy shooting 9mm's compared to .38Spl's.
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Beautiful weapon sir!!
JFrame
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Again, hmmm...This puts me at a really intriguing crossroad.
I have the 360PD -- but I have a multitude of other .357 revolvers...Granted, nothing as light as the 360PD -- but I also have the 337PD, which is basically the same gun in .38 only, and at about an ounce less. And I'm probably not going to be firing a lot of .357's through the 360PD anyway, so that capability is largely moot...
I'm assuming the smith can do the same work as yours on the 360PD -- or, at worst, swap out with a stainless cylinder to work his rechambering magic.
Oh, man -- my head hurts...! I'm going to have to do some serious cost benefit analyzing here...
Thank you for the heads up, WC145!
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If your 360PD has a titanium cylinder it can't be rechambered, too hard to cut. The solution would be to buy a spare steel cylinder and Mark could rechamber it and fit it to the gun. That way you could swap between. 38/.357 and 9mm anytime you want. I'm actually doing the opposite, I bought a spare Ti cylinder and I'm having him fit it to my gun so that I can have a 10oz .38spl (think 337) when I feel the need.
Check his site - www.pinnacle-guns.com
Check his site - www.pinnacle-guns.com
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Mark does some great work and he is a great competition shooter also.
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As you probably know Ruger has several 9mm revolvers from the past. I have both a speed six and a sp101 in 9mm. With the sp101 in so many calibers already I would not be surprised to see the 9mm return.
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