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If you were to go in an area to scout for hunting deer and/or black bear, aside from carrying a sidearm, what of the following rifles would you bring - M1 carbine, Min1 14 in .223 or a MArlin 336 in 30-30? My area is SE Washington, lots of hills and maybe some woods. Deer, black bear, coyote and maybe an occasional cougar are seen.
 
The .30-30, can't believe you asked. I know the .223 fans will start raving about the 75 gr bullet but no thanks, I'll take the .30-30.
 
Kind of seems the exact, perfect, precise scenario for which a lever-action .30-30 was designed.
 
You're right. It was silly to ask. That's why I like my Marlin so much. That's the only rifle I can comfortably shoot with open sights accurately up to 200 yards.
 
Marlin in 30-30. If you shoot a black bear with a 30carbine round, you will just tick it off. A 223 will also tick it off, but be bloodier. You might want to consider an SKS, which uses a round similar to the 30-30, but it is semiautomatic.
 
.30-30 without question. Have three of them but typically opt for a .44Mag instead. Hard to even find a place around here where you can see much more than 100yds in the woods. The .44 is more pleasant to shoot and one load takes care of rifle and sixgun.
 
I'd feel quite well armed with my 336 30-30. My 94 Win from the sixties in 44 mag would be a little handier and lighter.
 
Take the 30-30 and pick up two boxes of Hornady Leverevolution ammo. Sight it in at 100yds, shoot out to 200, yds easy.

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.30-30 ! Washington law requires .24 caliber or larger for big game, with cougar being the exception, .22 centerfire or bigger!( .22 hornet, .223, 22-250, .222 mag etc..)
Carbine would be a little light IMO
 
What decides the issue is whether a season is in effect, and a license involved.

To scout in MO, it's likely bow season, which starts Sept. 15. Hence the issue - a handgun and no license is not going to be what you should have "scouting." No weapon and a pair of binoculars would fly if - and it's not likely - but if you stumble into a Conservation Agent. We have our share, and they get around.

We have most of the same game, bear isn't uncommon, neither is cougar now, most are very shy. If you did see one, you'd be in some unmolested terrain for sure. They are there year round.

What is also a problem is out of season hunting - simply labeled "poaching" in court. Having the appropriate firearm and license for the game allowed on the calendar will likely be the better answer. Often, that's a shotgun for birds, or a .22 for small game.

Lever? Why not an AR15 or AK? I don't think it's going to make much difference, we see them recommended as medium game rifles all the time. The cartridges perform under similar conditions.
 
...a handgun and no license is not going to be what you should have "scouting."
Sorry but I don't venture into the woods without a sidearm and simply being in the woods with a firearm does not constitute hunting. I'm in the woods year round, always with a firearm but only hunting when something is in season.


Why not an AR15 or AK?
Not everybody wants to hunt with an automatic.
 
Oh that's kinda hot. Just saying :)

I bought my R92 in .454 as a multi purpose bush gun. Lighter + higher capacity than your average 30-30. The caliber is potent enough for most game in North America and i can revert to .45 long for anything that doesn't need a sledgehammer to kill or plinking. Just an alternative for you; albeit a harder to obtain alternative. The ammo will be a tad more expensive as well for both .45 long and casull.
 
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