If you were hunting big game & came across a coyote..

coyotes are fine where the are a native animal, Out west East of the Mississippi they are not native and have no preditors except man. here they kill fawns, foxes ground birds and any other native game they can get plus dogs cats and young/small livestock and poultry. If I see a coyote while I have a weapon on me I am coyote hunting. I developed my own 28 ga round ball slug just to have a yote load while small game hunting
Roy
P.S. deer is our only big game right now ..Hogs are coming and they are worse than yotes but that is another poll I was raised on venison I have killed more deer than I can count . Only deer I'm interested in is an eighty pound yearling to eat. the more coyotes I kill the better chance of finding an eater

plumberroy said:

coyotes are fine where the are a native animal, Out west East of the Mississippi they are not native and have no preditors except man. here they kill fawns, foxes ground birds and any other native game they can get plus dogs cats and young/small livestock and poultry. If I see a coyote while I have a weapon on me I am coyote hunting. I developed my own 28 ga round ball slug just to have a yote load while small game hunting
Roy
P.S. deer is our only big game right now ..Hogs are coming and they are worse than yotes but that is another poll I was raised on venison I have killed more deer than I can count . Only deer I'm interested in is an eighty pound yearling to eat. the more coyotes I kill the better chance of finding an eater

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You are wrong, The coyote or (Canis latrans), also known as the American jackal or the prairie wolf, is a species of canine found throughout North and Central America, ranging from Panama in the south, north through Mexico, the United States and Canada. It occurs as far north as Alaska and all but the northernmost portions of Canada.

If someone hunting MY land passed up a yote they would have to find another place to hunt because they are not going to be hunting on me again .

303tom, the wildlife folks have written that coyotes were not known in the eastern US until the 20th century. Early wagon-train folks commented upon the initial sightings of an animal which was new to them as they trekked west of the Mississippi in the 19th century.

Unless it's in my stand, I'm not wasting a round on it.

There were NO coyotes here in Alabama before the mid 1970s when fox hunters had some brought in. The plan backfired as the coyote has almost completely displaced the fox. A Birmingham television station even did a report making fun of people who reported seeing one in 1974. I know several cattle farmers who lose calves to them and others who say they have never lost a calf to coyotes. I just wish the coyotes would develop a taste for Canada geese! They are the biggest pest animal here! Oh...and YES I shoot every coyote that gives me the chance!

7 billion chickens are slaughtered annually in the U.S. Add to that millions of cattle, sheep and pigs. And some are upset that hunters kill coyotes to reduce predation on livestock and game animals?

Humans use other organisms for human benefit. It is that simple.

The best answer I can come up with after following this for a while is this. If you spend a decent amount of days in the field you will get plenty of cracks at coyotes without jacking up your BG season. Take up the hobby of predator calling and you will increase that number greatly.
I have had plenty of shots at coyotes during a BG hunt but not knowing what is over the next rise or coming down the trail keeps me from pulling the trigger on a lowly dog that hasn't even primed out till the late season hunts anyway.
I have no love of them but have done some damage to their population while scouting, fishing, ATV riding all pre or post BG season plus a healthy number taken while calling.

Your deer/elk license is NOT a license to shoot coyotes.

You need a small game license.

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You are mistaken.

http://wildlife.state.co.us/SiteCollectionDocuments/DOW/RulesRegs/Brochure/BigGame/biggame.pdf
4. Coyotes: You can hunt coyotes without a smallgame
license during big-game seasons if you have
an unfilled big-game license. You can hunt coyotes
only in the same unit, season and manner of take
as on the big-game license. Once you fill your
big-game license, you must buy a small-game or
furbearer license to hunt coyotes. Harvesting a
coyote does not void your big-game license.

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Unless I'm reading that wrong.

You are wrong, The coyote or (Canis latrans), also known as the American jackal or the prairie wolf, is a species of canine found throughout North and Central America, ranging from Panama in the south, north through Mexico, the United States and Canada. It occurs as far north as Alaska and all but the northernmost portions of Canada.
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In the late 70's early 80's I lived in the woods Since I traveled between Ok. and Oh. I knew what a coyote was back then . I saw the first coyote in the area of western Oh. in 82 I was told I was crazy there are no coyote here . Back them you couldn't drive 5 miles down a country road with out a fox crossing the road . I averaged 60 fox a year now I see coyotes often and have seen one fox in the last 3 years

i have never had the opportunity to hunt for elk. but with michigan white tail deers, a couple of shots will not deter them from coming along the same trail for very long. many, many times i have shot a deer, and had several more come along even with a dead one still laying in the trail. when they notice it is laying there, they get a little freaked out. but by then, i already could have shot them if i had wanted. drag the animal off the trail, and they just keep coming. anyway, we do not tag coyotes here either. just blow their legs out from under them. some people just leave them lay. others sell the hide. but the last few years, it has been a loosing proposition as far as making money from the hyde. most in this area are culled just to lessen predation on the deer. woulkd i shoot one while deer hunting? YOU BET! i would drag it off the trail as far as i reasonably could as well. i HATE how much better animals noses are than ours!

I hunted mule deer in the Sierra Nevada, pheasant in South Dakota, white tail and small game in northern Minnesota.

During the very cold December, and January weather, I called, and shot Coyote. I felt lucky getting them within 100 yards. With a .243 it was not hard to take one.

I have seen coyote during the off season many times. Usually close to or during darkness.

I read all these stories about coyotes walking under the stand, shooting five coyotes in one day while white tail hunting, and other tall tales, I just shake my head.

During all my time in the mountains, plains and woods, I never saw a coyote during fall hunting in the day light. I encountered almost every other animal imaginable, but no coyotes.

During the hunting seasons, the woods are full of a smell. Its man. Coyotes are laying low till evening. Most of the off season, the woods lack this smell. When coyotes are near mans dwellings, its supposed to smell of man. Hope I said this right.

Like I said before, if I seen one during a deer hunt, he walked away. No reason to spook the deer.

thecarfarmer said:

Hey Tahoe, good to hear from another Seattle guy! Grew up near Carkeek Park; could hear coyotes in the evenings. But have never seen one. They seemed to have NO desire to interact with humans.

I never thought of them as a nusiance or threat; just a wild animal that was eking out an existance in a small corner of semi-wild habitat.

Anyway, I thought I'd throw a different viewpoint out here: a lot of you guys want to keep the predators beaten back so you have more deer, right? Well, what the heck makes you think deer are so good? They may be an attractive animal (I think they are), but they're certainly a nuisance around here. Get out on the roads and wreck cars - and motorcycles. And as a motorcyclist, those deer are a real threat to my safety while riding. They kill and injure a number of bikers.

And that, my friends, makes this animal a pest. Prettier than a mosquito; less likely to bite me. But, actually more likely to cause me real harm.

So, there's my .02...

-Bill

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You needn't worry...we shoot deer too...

x_wrench said:

i have never had the opportunity to hunt for elk. but with michigan white tail deers, a couple of shots will not deter them from coming along the same trail for very long. many, many times i have shot a deer, and had several more come along even with a dead one still laying in the trail. when they notice it is laying there, they get a little freaked out. but by then, i already could have shot them if i had wanted. drag the animal off the trail, and they just keep coming. anyway, we do not tag coyotes here either. just blow their legs out from under them. some people just leave them lay. others sell the hide. but the last few years, it has been a loosing proposition as far as making money from the hyde. most in this area are culled just to lessen predation on the deer. woulkd i shoot one while deer hunting? YOU BET! i would drag it off the trail as far as i reasonably could as well. i HATE how much better animals noses are than ours!

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we do not tag coyotes here either. just blow their legs out from under them. some people just leave them lay.

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Let me try and understand this. In your neck of the woods, people shoot to wound coyotes and just leave them to suffer?

we do not tag coyotes here either. just blow their legs out from under them. some people just leave them lay.

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Let me try and understand this. In your neck of the woods, people shoot to wound coyotes and just leave them to suffer?

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I think his post was a bit poorly-worded. I don't think he meant he would intentionally wound and let them suffer... just kill all he finds and leave them where they lay. At least I hope that's what he meant. To "shoot one's legs out from under them" is an old saying not to be taken literally... again, I hope.

Let me try and understand this. In your neck of the woods, people shoot to wound coyotes and just leave them to suffer?

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No, they don't. It is a figure of speech. They are killed and left there to be disposed of by natural means.

Thank you.

allaroundhunter said:

They are killed and left there to be disposed of by natural means.

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Mother Nature does a wonderful job of disposing of the remains.

It's interesting how Mother Nature is so great when it suits our wants but she so horrible (or too inconvenient) when she doesn't.

It's interesting how Mother Nature is so great when it suits our wants but she so horrible (or too inconvenient) when she doesn't.
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Mother Nature is great, it is when man thinks he knows more and starts moving critters from the area she put 'em to areas were they think that critter should live . Or changes the habitat to artificially increase there numbers beyond what nature intended messes up the mix . Or kills of a key critter. in the mix is when things get screwed up.

plumberroy said:

Mother Nature is great, it is when man thinks he knows more and starts moving critters from the area she put 'em to areas were they think that critter should live . Or changes the habitat to artificially increase there numbers beyond what nature intended messes up the mix . Or kills of a key critter. in the mix is when things get screwed up.

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I agree. And I'm not trying to be a SOB. What about killing off coyotes to leave more deer for us? I'm just playing Devil's advocate regarding respecting Mother Nature's "ways" when she suits our wants and hypocritically working against her as it suits our wants. After all she (or God) created coyotes and their ways too. Why must we be so hypocritical in justifying our needs/wants/comfort?

Let's just agree that we adjust our world, working AGAINST Mother Nature, to make ourselves happy and comfortable. I'm not criticizing that concept... just criticizing hiding behind other agenda to justify or soften it. I'm just saying tell it like it is. We take what we want and mold our surroundings, including the killing of Mother Natures animals, to suit our wants/needs/comfort. Pretty simple.

I agree. And I'm not trying to be a SOB. What about killing off coyotes to leave more deer for us? I'm just playing Devil's advocate regarding respecting Mother Nature's "ways" when she suits our wants and hypocritically working against her as it suits our wants. After all she (or God) created coyotes and their ways too. Why must we be so hypocritical in justifying our needs/wants/comfort?

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Would you agree that us hunting coyotes and being predators would be us fitting into our environment, just as the coyote hunting and being a predator is its way of fitting into its environment? It is our way of keeping our food plentiful, and the need for food is common to every living thing in nature. The difference is, we are not trying to make the coyote extinct, we are merely trying to limit their population, we are trying to be conservationists. The coyotes wouldn't understand what they were doing if they were to hunt rabbits or another type of game to extinction, they are just filling their need for food. In other words, we know when we need to stop to have a balanced ecosystem, the coyote doesn't.

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Would you agree that us hunting coyotes and being predators would be us fitting into our environment, just as the coyote hunting and being a predator is its way of fitting into its environment? It is our way of keeping our food plentiful, and the need for food is common to every living thing in nature. The difference is, we are not trying to make the coyote extinct, we are merely trying to limit their population, we are trying to be conservationists. The coyotes wouldn't understand what they were doing if they were to hunt rabbits or another type of game to extinction, they are just filling their need for food. In other words, we know when we need to stop to have a balanced ecosystem, the coyote doesn't.

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Yes, I agree with all of what you wrote. You, unlike many, just tell it like it is. While I don't necessarily agree with all you do... I can respect it if you tell it like it is. I understand that you may not agree with all I do... but I'm pretty tame and straight and I'm no coward.

Yes, I agree with all of what you wrote. You, unlike many, just tell it like it is. While I don't necessarily agree with all you do... I can respect it if you tell it like it is. I understand that you may not agree with all I do... but I'm pretty tame and straight and I'm no coward.

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Everyone is not always going to agree. I just wish people were more understanding of those that have other opinions. I also wish many people weren't so hard headed and willing to listen to other points of view.....but again, that is just a wish

I respect your opinions, Mike, and as you said, we might not agree 100% of the time, totally fine by me!

If everyone could just agree to disagree sometimes, the world really would be a better place.