Anyone know if this is true? DHS contract for 450M rounds of ammunition conspiracy

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No, that's nonsense.


It's an IDIQ contract. Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity. It means DHS could buy the whole amount or none at all.

It's simply a contract vehicle to lock in a price over the agreed upon time, with a cap on the total amount they'll order in the time frame. Remember DHS includes a lot of agencies these days (Secret Service, US Coast Guard, Border Patrol, ...) that would have contracted for ammunition separately in the past and a single procurement for them now will be large.

It is just a standard government procurement practice.
 
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There was jsut a thread about it on the 20th.

It was BS then, and it's still BS six days later.

rc
 
Do the agents descend on gun shops from black helicopters piloted by big-eyed aliens from space with UFO's providing support? If not, it isn't true. No story about secret plots is valid without aliens from outer space, UFO's and black helicopters. Or grassy knolls.

JIm
 
From the "WRONG!... Sometimes you can judge a book by it's cover" department.

I mentally smirk whenever I'm directed through links to a "source" of information for one of these scare issues. Now, I'm not saying that legitimate news only comes from one of the established outlets, but c'mon guys get a firmer grip on your ability to smell a turd when you see one. These things are really getting boring.

"According to an anonymous source...";
"...source claims..."
"The source points out..."
"...source says..."
"... one can only speculate..."


But the best has got to be:
"While all of this is coming from an unreliable anonymous source I am putting it out there in case the claims are true."
 
I have a source that tells me the cow jumped over the moon.


I'm not sure it happened. But in case it's true, I'm "putting it out there, too."
 
No story about secret plots is valid without aliens from outer space, UFO's and black helicopters. Or grassy knolls.

JIm

My source denies any knowlege of ammo hoarding by .gov...

...but he DOES admit to buying up all the pistol primers he can find. Says they're delicious!:evil:

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You know, I almost can believe it.....simply because I can see the govt paying for the same product twice.....
 
They sure had an awful lot of the exact ammo shown in the picture at gander mountain when I went the other day..
 
The source seems shaky to me, and I don't want to create a panic, but if it is true the hive needs to know. And let's face it, it's exactly the kind of thing the administration would try.

when i read the above statement, i immediately suspected its falsity. lotsa fear re: administration and our gun rights, loss of 2nd amendment. so old i forget the band who wrote the song with words, "Paranoia strikes deep, into the heart it will creep...."

IMHO, and to each his own. take the high road.
 
I have seen cans and cans of this ammo just about everywhere. Even Dick's Sporting Goods has cans of this stuff stacked up between the bolling balls and the shake weights.

If the gov't is buying this up, they ain't working at it very hard.
 
What beats gold investment? Ammo!

Interesting news.... the gov just purchased 450 milliion rounds of ammo.
Inflation hedge? Ammo seems to be a good investment.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/at...on-and-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-2012-03-12

PS I hope this is the right forum section.
PPS This is just an interesting news item for discussion. I am in no way recommending ammo to you for investment and I am not affiliated with any ammunition or arms company.
 
What does your post even mean? Did you even think your post through before you posted?

Will the DHS ever want to buy a case of your ammo?

Even if they did, the price is fixed for several years, and definitely at far less cost than what you paid for your ammo at retail.

How does owning a commodity at a fixed rate be an "inflation hedge"?
 
I for one am glad they are doing a mass bulk buy. It saves taxpayer dollars that way.

A law enforcement agency will not only qualify its sworn three or four times a year but issue from 50-100 rounds a month for practice. Sometimes the officers have to go to the range to get that ammo. They sign for it (to prove to the bean counters that the ammo was distributed as intended) and then shoot it at the range.

Also consider that training is different from qualifying. That burns up ammo too. Now, if some one fails to qualify, they must shoot again. That's more ammo.

One final word. That huge purchase had better cover all federal law enforcement including Mint Police and Federal Protective Services.
 
firesky: Sorry for the dedicated thread. I did look, clearly not well enough. will try and close this one.

CWL: sure did think. cause dad says I'm his smartest son, doh! yep, planning on selling my 100 rounds to homeland security as soon as they get to their last 625th million.... Purchasing inflationary commodities for future consumption or buying forward contracts are inflationary hedges. I work in industry and resin, pet, hdpe, ps, aluminium, stainless, brass, copper and chemicals have inflated 10 to 30 percent. If the DHS is buying 625 million rounds they are either very paranoid or very savvy with regard to the futures market... which as far as I am aware is not traded publicly. Since global conflict is ubiquitous and runs on bullets I was hoping to trigger by mention of gold speculation on why ammunition was not similarly marketed. If we can buy pork belly futures why not .223?

Gary: it saves tax dollars, agreed, but it does not cover all fed agencies, only DHS. It is a contract for future delivery, not bulk delivery.
 
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