Glock dislikes

When I first started shooting in the early 90's, I hated Glock.

Now, I love my Gen 4 Glocks. I don't find the Gen 4 Glocks to be too fat at all. The Gen 4 Glock has made me consider, for the first time, selling my P226.

I love everything about Glocks except:
-trigger bite and that stupid pointy drop safety in the middle of the trigger
-the frames dust cover is melted crooked
-gritty trigger

I'm carrying a Glock 2.0, that's a Springfield XDm 3.8 Compact, so I can't say too many bad things about Glock and plastic pistols. The only two things I dislike about Glock is the grip angle and the near religious fervor displayed by the Glock faithful. Aside from that there is a lot to be said for the line.

The slide is what is fat.
And the grip angle is wrong, (unless you grew up shooting German Luger's).
The trigger is atrocious and mushy, and wears a blister on your finger from trigger slap.
Plus, if you grew up shooting S&W and Colt, it's hard to like a soulless gun like a Glock!

Other then that, what's not to like?
They do usually work.
And they are dishwasher safe!

And if somebody steals it out of your truck?
You can buy another one just exactly like it for chump change compared to a collector grade S&W or Colt with a soul!

rc

That I don't have a few more of them.

And calling the grip angle "wrong" is complete BS. It takes maybe 20 minutes to get used to. And the trigger slap is rare.

Inebriated said:

That I don't have a few more of them.

And calling the grip angle "wrong" is complete BS. It takes maybe 20 minutes to get used to. And the trigger slap is rare.

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I can hold it all day long, doesn't mean it's going to change.

(that's what she said).

I don't like the grip angle, the Superman status, or plastic mags.

Other than the group of close minded fans.. and well.. plastic guide rods, triggers, sights and such..
Not much other than the grip angle not to like..
That being said: I've adapted to the grip angle, and I like them rather well.

meanmustard said:

I can hold it all day long, doesn't mean it's going to change.

(that's what she said).

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No, and it's fine not to like it or not want to force yourself to like it. But I'm saying that calling it "wrong" is, well... wrong.

Before shooting a Glock, my experience with handguns was limited to a Colt 1911 (while growing up), a Beretta M9 (Air Force), a Springfield XD40 (my own, but sold it within a few months of buying), and most recently, Glock 19 and 23.

The Glocks are my favorite by far. I love the grip angle and ergonomics in general. I LOVE the trigger, both in the physical design and the feel during firing the weapon. I love the look and the manual of arms.

A Glock is a practical weapon in every way. For me, there's absolutely nothing more I could want in a firearm.

Inebriated said:

No, and it's fine not to like it or not want to force yourself to like it. But I'm saying that calling it "wrong" is, well... wrong.

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True. I think it is uncomfortable. Not wrong for some, not right for me.

calling the grip angle "wrong" is complete BS. It takes maybe 20 minutes to get used to.

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BS?
Thats easy for you to say!
But how do you get used to something that your hand was never built to fit right?

The only place on a Glock grip that fits my hand with a firm grip is the botton of the back-strap.
That leaves an air-space right in my palm that gives them a running start to rare up in my grip for the following shot and slow down a follow-up.

They don't fit my old hand, and I can't grow a new hand at my age!

If thats BS, I guess it is BS then!
But I don't see it that way.

rc

rcmodel said:

BS?
Thats easy for you to say!
But how do you get used to something that your hand was never built to fit right?

The only place on a Glock grip that fits my hand with a firm grip is the botton of the back-strap.
That leaves an air-space right in my palm that gives them a running start to rare up in my grip for the following shot and slow down a follow-up.

They don't fit my old hand, and I can't grow a new hand at my age!

If thats BS, I guess it is BS then!
But I don't see it that way.

rc

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Read my last post... It's fine not to like or fit it, and I'm not saying it's not a real difference, because it is... but it isn't anymore "wrong" than a revolver's grip angle.

Seeeems like this thread is just meant to whack the hornets nest.



The untimate deal breaker for me is the trigger reach and that dingleberry in the trigger makes it worse when trying to grab it with out concentrating to stretch my finger.

I prefer a grip angle that I'm use to... and a thumb safety optin would be nice too.

If the trigger reach was shorter I might it.

If they addressed the other two issues I'd probably like it as much as my S&W M&P.

Glock's are tools.Nothing more nothing less. They are very good tools that will last a lifetime. They are not pretty in fact they border on ugly. Some people don't like the grip some people do. I do.They are not a show horse they are however a workhorse.

i like sa/da. That pretty much rules them out for me. But I got nothing particularly bad to say about'em (cept their ugly)
But an ugly shovel will dig a hole!

if you grew up shooting S&W and Colt, it's hard to like a soulless gun like a Glock!

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I grew up shooting S&W's and Colts, but for some reason doing so
didn't turn me into an elitist. For the record I also like the Glocks, Sigs,
XDs and many others too.

Owned a Glock 19 since 1996. Completely trouble free. Nice shooter. Don't know about this hate for the grip angle -- seems like fly$hit in the pepper to me.

I've shot the beloved M1911A1, Beretta Mk9, Ruger P89DC, HK 45C, XD 45ACP, Ruger MkII, Browning Hi-Power, and the Walther PPK. Don't blame your poor shooting results on something as trivial as grip angle.

I find that the grip is to fat,

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Yeah, some guys and gals who have tiny childlike hands often make this complaint.

it's made out of plastic,

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Yeah, guys and gals who like to carry really heavy "boat anchor" pistols which rust and break easy often make this complaint.

and it looks ugly as....

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Yeah, guys and gals who are impressed by shiny things often make this complaint.

Most the guys I know like it.

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Yeah, most of the guys you know probably appreciate a well made, accurate, reliable, light weight, durable, rugged, robust, easy to shoot, easy to maintain, easy to gunsmith pistol....

those poor bastards.

Anyone else as radical as I

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You think you're radical?!?!?

Not every handgun fits people the same. For some it's great and like a glove. For others it just won't work. For me they are ok. Not my favorite but I don't dislike them.

I'm not a huge fan of the grip angle, but I can get by with it because the pros outweigh the cons. I'm also not a fan of the "U-dot" sights. I prefer either 3-dot or a dot and post sight picture.

They are soulless, but they work. I used to like them, and then I had a chance to shoot a Steyr M9 A1. I sold the Glock, and bought a Steyr, and shot it better right from the start. It has the same grip angle, but fits my hand. I don't have to concentrate on holding it like I did with a Glock.

The Steyr doesn't have a soul either, but it sure is a good tool.

I like all guns that function and preform well.

Glock is not my favorite looking pistol, but put one of the table that can go toe to toe in reliability with it.

I know its mostly 1911 guys who have some severe issues with Glocks, I don't know why, but if we are to discuss dislikes, then they should be objective observations.

Albeit, the HK was first polymer, it was Glock that became the icon of the polymer handgun revolution.

I wish Glock would take the finger grooves off and leave the rails on. Use the old 2nd generation frames but add a rail to it.

easyg said:

Yeah, some guys and gals who have tiny childlike hands often make this complaint.


Yeah, guys and gals who like to carry really heavy "boat anchor" pistols which rust and break easy often make this complaint.


Yeah, guys and gals who are impressed by shiny things often make this complaint.


Yeah, most of the guys you know probably appreciate a well made, accurate, reliable, light weight,



durable, rugged, robust, easy to shoot, easy to maintain, easy to gunsmith pistol....

those poor bastards



You think you're radical?!?!?

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I hope some day we can all appreciate each others choice in guns, but you Glock guys are full of fervor when it comes to the Fantastic Plastic. You do not have to have child's hands to be uncomfortable with a Glock. I myself find that alone makes it difficult for ME to shoot. It is not
"ugly" but utilitarian in looks, I guess Spartan is the term. As far as being robust, I've seen them jam...at the range. They have few parts, and the ones they do rarely break, making them nearly indestructible. That does not, however, make them something I'd prefer to own, as there are "boat anchor" shiny pistols I prefer over it. Let's not berate someone for having an adverse view of the Glock. If Glock folks can scoff at my boat anchor, then their Tupperware is fair game.