Creating a stash of ammunition in common calibers

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I didn't read the whole thread, but got the gist of it.

I would drop the pea shooter pistol calibers. If anyone has a gun in that caliber, well, too bad.

I'd also drop the military surplus calibers except 7.62x39 and .223 of course. If anyone has a surplus Mauser, they'd have ammo for it. What "normal" person goes out of their way to buy an ol' surplus rifle and NOT buy ammo for it? That scenario seems unlikely.

Other than that, add .357Mag to your main list. I'd ignore calibers on that second list of things you want to acquire.
 
I have read the entire thread through, but it's taken on a decidedly "troll" appearance. I wasn't aware that the High Road dealt in hypothetical BS postings like this, over time I've seen pretty much all of them get locked quickly by a mod.

Do whatever you want to do, you aren't here looking for actual input anyway it seems.
 
Warp said:
David E: Have you read through this thread yet?

If not, please do so.

If so, please go back and read the part where I said I would be better off with him armed, than not, again...and tell me why you disagree with that statement.
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Yes, I've read it. You asked for opinions then bristle when people give them. :rolleyes:

Regardless of what experience or history someone may or may not have, I'd have to ask: WHY don't they have any ammo? Was it stolen? Lost? Left at the "ammo store" 1/2 the country away? Have they decided that guns are never the answer, swore they'd never kill again, but won't sell them due to sentimental value?

Or do they just not care?

Usually, a bulletless person just doesn't care. I dont need such a person backing me up. No, he can take Point....

It is not my mission to buy all kinds of ammo that I personally cannot use just in case I come across someone who has a firearm but no ammo for it. That money would be better spent on supplementing my own calibers.

That reminds me, I'm not out, but I'm a little light on .35 Remington.... but I'm not going to ask you or my neighbor for any.....

YMMV

(IBTL!)
 
The caliber won't ever be an issue for many of us.

If supplies of refrigerated insulin for a family member were to somehow stop and be impossible to order/buy, then boxes of every possible kind of ammo would not be the solution.
 
Captains1911]I can see it, but it make WAY more sense to achieve that by stocking your own ammo and guns that you could then lend to somebody nearby (i.e 2 or 3 AR-15s and 10,000 rounds of ammo).
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lol

3 AR-15s. Yeah, that would only set me back $2,000+ for the guns alone. If I can afford a couple hundred bucks in ammo over the course of a few years, I can afford $2k for some guns, and then mags/ammo on top of that. :rolleyes:
 
readyeddy said:
I think this a great idea. Many good people don't plan for emergencies so having the ability to provide ammo can make a huge difference, and having a network of friends and neighbors in a SHTF scenario is important.

With respect to ammo selection, I wouldn't include .357 Mag or .44 Mag because .38 Special and .44 Special will fire in either gun. This will help to save space and be more efficient.

The only other thing I can think of is to accumulate more of the common calibers.
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Okay. Good. Next step...the "more of the common calibers". Which ones would you get next?

writerinmo said:
I have read the entire thread through, but it's taken on a decidedly "troll" appearance. I wasn't aware that the High Road dealt in hypothetical BS postings like this, over time I've seen pretty much all of them get locked quickly by a mod.

Do whatever you want to do, you aren't here looking for actual input anyway it seems.
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Hypothetical? What's hypothetical about buying ammo? Heck, I even posted a picture of the ammo and the can. That isn't hypothetical, that's right there in living color. ;)

What you fail to understand is what I asked. I asked what calibers. I did NOT ask if you thought I should do it. But hey, I realize posting anything on a forum is basically an invitation for others to tell you it's a bad idea, even if you didn't ask. So, I realize you don't care for the idea and won't be doing it yourself. I get that, and I get why you are saying that. If that is your only input I ask that you please stop trolling the thread now. If you have some other kind of input, or something constructive, by all means, post it. Thank you.


valnar said:
I didn't read the whole thread, but got the gist of it.

I would drop the pea shooter pistol calibers. If anyone has a gun in that caliber, well, too bad.

I'd also drop the military surplus calibers except 7.62x39 and .223 of course. If anyone has a surplus Mauser, they'd have ammo for it. What "normal" person goes out of their way to buy an ol' surplus rifle and NOT buy ammo for it? That scenario seems unlikely.

Other than that, add .357Mag to your main list. I'd ignore calibers on that second list of things you want to acquire.
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Drop the pea shooter pistol calibers...lol...you have a point there.
 
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David E said:
Regardless of what experience or history someone may or may not have, I'd have to ask: WHY don't they have any ammo? Was it stolen? Lost? Left at the "ammo store" 1/2 the country away? Have they decided that guns are never the answer, swore they'd never kill again, but won't sell them due to sentimental value?

Or do they just not care?
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Please read the thread. Your question has already been answered.
 
Warp said:
So my neighbor, who was fresh out of the Marine Corp (honorable discharge, of course, former Marine not ex), who was licensed to carry, who was from Texas and had brought his guns with him when he moved to GA but had not brought any ammo, and had not bothered to buy any ammo since moving...why would I "NOT" want him anywhere near me in a SHTF type circumstance?
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Ok, I misread this the first time. He can be NEAR me, but I'm not going to share, much less stock, ammo for him when he hasn't "bothered" to buy any of his own. To me, that means he really doesn't care about such things.

As for what calibers you should have on hand for the wayward, ammoless people you encounter, get a box of those .256 Belchfire Magnums previously mentioned.

Best of luck to you.
 
Warp said:
Okay. Good. Next step...the "more of the common calibers". Which ones would you get next?


Common calibers would probably include 38 Special, 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP, 22 LR, 30 06, 308, 223 and 30-30.
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I already have all of those.

I am pretty familiar with pistols and pistol calibers. I'm not much on rifles.



What are the most common hunting rifle calibers? Any I don't have listed?

Current centerfire rifle

.223
7.62x39
7.62x54R
30-06 Springfield
7mm Remington Mag
.243 WIN
.270 WIN
30-30 WIN
.308 WIN
 
I would start by finding out what specific guns my friends and family have, and use that to make my ammo list rather than guessing.

In general, you could probably cover 90% of everything with .22, 9mm, .38 Special, .40, .45, .223, and 7.62x39. The vast majority of people who own any guns own at least one of those.
 
Thought this might be interesting. Here is the list from the original post. I will highlight in green all of the calibers that match guns I own or have owned (in which case I bought the ammo to go with the gun that I had at the time).

I will then highlight in blue calibers which I fully intend to own guns for in the future.

Not a whole lot left in black...

Pistol
.25 auto
.32 auto
.380 auto
9mm Makarov
9mm Luger
.40 S&W
.45 ACP
10mm
.38spl
.44spl


Rifle
.223
7.62x39
7.62x54R
30-06 Springfield
7mm Remington Mag
.243 WIN
.270 WIN
30-30 WIN
.308 WIN


Shotgun
.410 gauge
20 gauge
12 gauge


Rimfire
.22lr
.17 HMR
 
Ian said:
I would start by finding out what specific guns my friends and family have, and use that to make my ammo list rather than guessing.

In general, you could probably cover 90% of everything with .22, 9mm, .38 Special, .40, .45, .223, and 7.62x39. The vast majority of people who own any guns own at least one of those.
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Very good point.

The calibers you listed + 12 gauge would cover every gun that a family member owns, that I know about, where there is any chance they won't have adequate ammunition of their own. (A couple family members are gun guys and I don't know what all they have, surely a bunch of different calibers, but they'll have ammo)
 
What is your 'common'? Maybe your friend/friends might have a .218Bee or a 7x30Waters or maybe even a 32/40Win. and a .43 mauser, these could be their favorite/common calibers which they have and shoot all the time.

I think you could best find the answers to your thread by going out and talking to/at your friends/neighbors and ask what guage's or caliber's they all have then go out and buy ammo till your hearts content.
 
A lot of posts have this type of sentiment:

I really don't understand how you will be better off in an emergency by supplying a magazine worth of ammo to somebody who was unable to take care of themselves.
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To which I would like to suggest to move on to another thread.

Seriously, if youdont have an understanding by now as to the potential advantage of what Warp is doing then you probably never will.

Take the low road mob mentality and move on and let this thread be.


Then there are these types of posts:
Yes, I've read it. You asked for opinions then bristle when people give them
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He asked about which calibers to get. He didnt ask for your opinions of the people that might not have ammo.

Why is it so hard to stick to the questions and not veer off into a tangent filled with derogatory off topic opinions?

Personally I would stick with:
22lr
380 (although I dont like the round so it would be toward the bottom)
9mm
38/357 (Id buy the 38s 1st as they are usuable in more guns)
44/44mag (same theory as 38/357)
45

223
30-30
30-06
308

20 ga
12 ga

Id leave it that and maybe even getting rid of a couple.
 
danez71: Of the ones you listed, what would you get rid of first?

I'm thinking .44 is what I would cross off first, of those.



The next step of this...what type of round would be best? I have avoided anything +P in case the gun is old, etc, and not rated for +P. I have also tried to stick to round nose FMJ for all of the semi autos, especially the pistols, for the most reliable feeding possible.
 
danez71 said:
Why is it so hard to stick to the questions and not veer off into a tangent
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Simply because the premise is egregiously flawed.

If someone posted: "I want a .22 Short for defense, because my neighbor, a former Marine, said they're great for defense. But what loads are best?" folks would bring up the painfully obvious (to all but the poster) fact that the .22 Short isn't a very good choice for defense, regardless of the load chosen.

They, too, would be accused of "veering off on a tangent and not answering the question."

Enjoy the rest of your thread.
 
9mm, 45 ACP, .357 Mag, .30-'06, .223/5.56, 7.62x39, .22lr, .308, 12 ga, .410, .30-30.

BTW, is the world going to end? I feel like I missed something.......
 
308, 380, & 44.

I think the 30-06 and 30-30 are alot more common than 308 nation wide..... I could be wrong.... but thats what I think from my travels.

380 just because I dont like it much and its a poor SD round and poor hunting round. Its mainly become popular more recently.

44 because I think the 357/38 is way more common nationwide.

Id axe them in that order.


The next step of this...what type of round would be best?
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If you mean what flavor of each caliber..... plain ol' FMJ or lead round nose.

For the shot guns #6-ish or maybe #4-ish. I'm not very shot gun savvy though so something good enough for SD and still have edible small game if used for that. I think that would be around #6. If you think #8... go with that. #8 used for SD @ indoors range is still nasty. Maybe a small box of slugs too just in case.
 
David E: Your analogy is not apt.

Thought you should know that.


daneZ71: That's about what I was thinking.
 
David E said:
Simply because the premise is egregiously flawed.


Enjoy the rest of your thread.
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As I said, if you dont see the potential benefit after 4 pages you never will. Dont waste your breath arguing something you dont understand.

Thanks... let THR return.
 
Oh, the analogy is apt and I certainly understand the alleged concept.....:rolleyes:

But have fun!
 
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