Assault rifle

I think this guy has spent too much time in illinois, his article reeks of elitism, thinking the police are better trained than any ccl holder is just ludicrous.

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I read as much as I could, untill I got dizzy............

Ugh. Another person who thinks your average concealed weapon permit holder is useless in every way and your average police officer is "Jack Bauer" (to borrow from his article).

I have no doubt that some cops can shoot circles around me. But I would imagine the "average" isn't significantly better, and may even be worse. Actually their biggest advantage is probably that they have a service-size weapon and not a pocket pistol or subcompact...all the more reason for me to carry as big of weapon as possible.

Any LEO's chime in on what it takes to qualify? Not talking SWAT people, just your average run of the mill cop (not to take away anything from your average run of the mill cop, I appreciate what they do, but you get what I mean).

He is not very confident with his rifle. His "shut up" title rants make him look like less credible and his fellow gunowners look bad


Tip: an explanation of link would be appropriate. Most wont click without one.

He can shut up.

Okay, call me illiterate, but I read the foxnews bit, then clicked the "see the full article" and I still haven't seen the bit about WHY he owns an "assault rifle."

Other than that, I didn't care for the article. It was too in your face and a little exagerated in some bits.

He has a point though fellas, your average “minute of beer can” civilian and even a good % of CCL holders never plan to use their guns they are for the "just in case" style of thinking. There is a ton of people out there running their mouths about how "if I was there things would have been different" however they weren't there and I can promise they've probably never been shot at. Not every gun owner out there are the professionals like us. I've never felt bad about pressing my trigger with an enemy on the business end of my weapon. Not everyone with a gun has our mindset, I see Soldiers on a daily basis that have never been in an altercation a large % of Americans haven't either. Just a thought y'all.

kcshooter said:

He can shut up.

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Exactly what I thought after reading most of his headings...

I don't understand his point of view.

He begins by saying basically that gun control is nonsense because no law can control a criminal, but then wraps up by saying responsible citizens who legally own firearms are impotent to stop threats with guns.

So, what? Guns and thousands of hours of training are, in fact, useless in the face of a real threat, AND we should not bother to outlaw guns?

Doesn't have much logic to what he is saying. Seems more like an anti-gun piece than anything (i.e., saying that responsible people with guns are useless anyway, negating any argument that responsible people with guns are important to society).

Good post.

Infidel4life11 said:

He has a point though fellas, your average “minute of beer can” civilian and even a good % of CCL holders never plan to use their guns they are for the "just in case" style of thinking. There is a ton of people out there running their mouths about how "if I was there things would have been different" however they weren't there and I can promise they've probably never been shot at. Not every gun owner out there are the professionals like us. I've never felt bad about pressing my trigger with an enemy on the business end of my weapon. Not everyone with a gun has our mindset, I see Soldiers on a daily basis that have never been in an altercation a large % of Americans haven't either. Just a thought y'all.

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His ability to make a clear overall point is lackluster.

No credibility found in that article. Guess I should just shut up

Red Cent said:

I read it twice and quit. One more time and I would have thrown the beer c........

He puts all of us in his box.

And I read the article that "clears things up". He still clings to some of his half empty, I know I'm not proficient and you're not either beliefs.

Exasperating.

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As did I. Still, I find the whole thing pointless. He doesn't know me, my views, ethics, or primal reasoning. I think this gentleman should probably seek employment with MSNBC.

Based on what I read here, I'm not going to read the article. I already have enough stress in my life.

Having 4 years in the USMC spending 13 months in Vietnam, being involved in Law Enforcement for over 36 years, being involved in 4 shootings as a Police Officer not to mention the fire fights as a Marine, reckon I should just shut up.:banghead:

Question???

Do you guys REALLY think this fella is the firearm owner that he states he is?

After all, he does own an "assault rifle" (full auto...really?)

He does make a couple of "kind of" points, sort of, then seems to veer into a liberal anti-gun carry diatribe. I could be wrong, but I would bet a little money that this guy is not quite who, and not quite what, he states himself to be.

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The payload is the final anti-gun ammo for antis ;-)

Annoying use of the term assault rifle. Plus the caption on the picture was all wrong. "assault rifle cartridges?"

So...why don't some of you more educated, enlightened, and eloquent folks write articles to more effectively articulate your positions, and get those published on a major news outlet?

Hacker15E said:

So...why don't some of you more educated, enlightened, and eloquent folks write articles to more effectively articulate your positions, and get those published on a major news outlet?

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Because we're a bunch of illeterate pickup truck drivin bambi killing gun nuts who beat our wifes and drink a lot of beer and fish and make up war stories and ...

Did I mention killing bambi?

I kind've found it insulting that he insinuates that people who conceal carry don't practice the task of drawing their weapon or placing quick accurate shots on target. there's been numerous occasions where CCW holders stopped or prevented a crime by utilizing their firearm. It makes me sick to think his idea is that the civilian population just grab their guns to just randomly shoot at a wall. Their are mighty fine civilian shooters who could shoot circles around LEO/military personnel. i served 6 years, and i knew more than enough fellow soldiers who could barely proficiently use their weapon. just because someone wheres a uniform doesn't automatically mean they're "Jason Bourne".

I agree with you guys we are getting put in a box of the "own guns people" but again I don't believe he is talking about "the high road" most of us walk a higher path in life. We have honor and our guns are our tools. Even newbies come HERE asking for our opinions. Should his write up offend us, hell yeah. Was it pointed at us, probably not. The 2nd amendment we hold so dear protects his 1st amendment everyday. God bless America and don't let this silliness under your skin. Nothing to waste a good beer over.