Help a newcomer out

Jim Watson said:

USPSA and IDPA don't play by IPSC rules.

IPSC Production has a minimum 5 lb DA trigger pull.
With a CZ only the first shot is DA, the rest are SA as light as you like.
With a Glock, all trigger pulls are the same and must make the minimum 5 lbs.

In the American games, there is no trigger pull limit and 2 lb Glocks are common.
Not that I recommend one for a beginner.

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I believe starting in 2013 uspsa production division guns require a minimum 3lb trigger pull for the first pull.

That rule was introduced and then repealed because almost all the production shooters were against it.

Sooner you get a pistol the sooner you can start, looks like the CZ may take a few months. I went the G34 route to get started asap, I understand it's available in a Gen 4 now. Really easy to do your own upgrades, trigger work, sights, etc on the Glock. Magazines, you may want 8-10 for a match are relatively cheap and they are tuff enough to drop on gravel and step on. I am a CZ fan, but to get a CZ with all the allowed mods, and magazines you may have enought in it to buy two G34s. The best DA/SA trigger I have ever shot was on a CZ SP01 from Angus' Custom Shop, cost around $1400 I was told. Too rich for my wallet, Competition is hard on pistols things wear out, break. On a Glock or 1911 I can fix most problems, or perform my own upgrades, parts are everywhere, tools are everywhere. I went the quick and easy way and have a Production Division pistol that I shoot as well as any other 9mm pistol I have shot... well almost as well as my STI 9mm 1911.

That rule was introduced and then repealed because almost all the production shooters were against it.

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Yep. It was strange but it seems like when talking to people (both online and in real life), the only people who supported this rule were people who didn't shoot production, and people who did all thought it a bad idea.

mgmorden said:

Yep. It was strange but it seems like when talking to people (both online and in real life), the only people who supported this rule were people who didn't shoot production, and people who did all thought it a bad idea.

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Interesting! I'll bet those Limited guys were tired of seeing production guys finish higher in the overall combined results hahaha.

congrats!

For IDPA I don't know if it's legal do to the full length dust cover. As far as weight reduction goes, I recommend checking out the brianenos forums or czforums.us for help.

ask BCRider

Justin, iirc BCrider has put a SP01 on a weight loss program and has run it in SSP for awhile.

I know rules are rules, but I wouldn't stress about weight on a local level.

In an SP-01 I load RN plated 125s to 1.130" and they feed very reliably.
They still feed if a bit longer, but at 1.135" I start getting some hickups so I stick with 1.130".

Books says COL for 115s is 1.090", but you could probably go longer.

I'd go with the G17. The ammo is cheap, and the gun is a primo defensive pistol. If you get some Federal or Winchester 115 gr JHP +p+ ronds for SD, you'd be all set. That is what I use.