bushmaster1313
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I can take it
Why no safety on the Sig 226?
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I can take it
GreyCoupe
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With a ten pound first pull and a decocker, who needs a safety?
People with unique situations, or who just would perfer every trigger pull be consistant or any other reasons someone may come up with.
EBK said:
Well, those individuals are free to buy something else but it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever buy a P series SIG with a safety. I prefer the DA/SA modes of the P series SIGs for self defense/CC since the chance of an ND in a high stress situation is virtually non-existent.
EBK said:
What would be the point of a decocker on such a pistol? If you want to carry a pistol cocked with the safety on then buy a 1911. SIG makes those too you know.
mgmorden
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While not ALL DA/SA guns are like this, most that do implement a manual safety also have the safety decock the gun. As such the most commonly accepted form of "DA/SA w/ Safety" isn't going to help your situation. It sounds like given your situation a DA/SA gun just isn't for you. I'd either opt for a single action or striker fired.
otasan56
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Thanx - I didn't know this.
The Sig 226 X-Five versions ...with the exception of the one with wood grips ...won't really stand out ....unless you look at the models in the gun sales cases carefully.
I'm not saying the 226 X-Five models are commonly found ...but some of the gun stores in my area...try to keep the X-Five Tactical in stock ...and while it lists for $ 1,696 it sells new in my area for under $ 1,400.
Personally, I favor a single action trigger as well...so I understand the OP's objections to a long DA trigger pull ...but then, that's why there are so many guns out there...and so many models...
I'm not saying the 226 X-Five models are commonly found ...but some of the gun stores in my area...try to keep the X-Five Tactical in stock ...and while it lists for $ 1,696 it sells new in my area for under $ 1,400.
Personally, I favor a single action trigger as well...so I understand the OP's objections to a long DA trigger pull ...but then, that's why there are so many guns out there...and so many models...
SwampWolf
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I don't think he was "objecting" to a DA pull so much as wondering why there is no safety on some pistols that have long DA trigger pulls.
Cosmoline
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There are no stupid questions, only snarky answers ;-)
But in this case there may be more to the issue than some think. Outside the US, with our 1911 heritage, it has not always been standard practice to carry one in the pipe. Even for law enforcement. And when the decocker/ DA/SA system was created in the 30's (IIRC) and popularized afterwards, the lack of a round in the chamber may in fact have been an additional safety feature.
It would be interesting to look at the original military and police manuals on these early da/sa pistols and see whether what we call Israeli presentation was the expected norm, with the long initial pull and the decocker as mere backups.
But in this case there may be more to the issue than some think. Outside the US, with our 1911 heritage, it has not always been standard practice to carry one in the pipe. Even for law enforcement. And when the decocker/ DA/SA system was created in the 30's (IIRC) and popularized afterwards, the lack of a round in the chamber may in fact have been an additional safety feature.
It would be interesting to look at the original military and police manuals on these early da/sa pistols and see whether what we call Israeli presentation was the expected norm, with the long initial pull and the decocker as mere backups.
You're right swampwolf.../ I did mistate his issue probably ....
and not to muddy the waters here....but there are techniques...where you can cock the hammer with your off hand as the gun comes up and out of the holster as well.....
I cocked all of my S&W revolvers - especially the N frames, when I was a kid, shooting my grandpa or my dads guns...
I'm in my early 60's today, but I'll still do it today once in a while:
a. on some of my S&W revolvers - especially in .44 mag...
b. on some of my Sig 226's ( where I have the standard DA/SA triggers - /or any Sig model with the DA/SA or DAK triggers if they have a hammer )
c. and of course I do it as well on my Freedom Arms - single action revolvers ( because its the only way you can shoot them ).
and not to muddy the waters here....but there are techniques...where you can cock the hammer with your off hand as the gun comes up and out of the holster as well.....
I cocked all of my S&W revolvers - especially the N frames, when I was a kid, shooting my grandpa or my dads guns...
I'm in my early 60's today, but I'll still do it today once in a while:
a. on some of my S&W revolvers - especially in .44 mag...
b. on some of my Sig 226's ( where I have the standard DA/SA triggers - /or any Sig model with the DA/SA or DAK triggers if they have a hammer )
c. and of course I do it as well on my Freedom Arms - single action revolvers ( because its the only way you can shoot them ).
Sig Sauer produced the SIG 220 in 1975, Glock produced the G17 in 1985
bushmaster1313
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Correct
IIRC, my HK USP had a decocker/safety lever.
My Sig 226 does not, and I was wondering what motivated Sig to not have a mechanical safety.
Because options are good and I already own a 1911.
Yes I do. For me it is a need due to loss of motion, for other it may be preference.
Everyone asked why one would be asked for I gave expamples and my personal reasons why I would want one.
Nothing more nothing less.
I also understand this and my point was more firearms need the option of either cocked and locked or decock and double action.
I would currently own a P345 and a Beretta 92 if it wasnt for the fact the thumb safety also decocks the gun.
FIVETWOSEVEN
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You can modify the Beretta to be able to be C/L.
I did not know that. Off to google to see how!
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