Well, Obama just laid it out

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What I heard was:
  • High cap mag ban
  • Military style weapon ban
  • No private sales
At least, that's what he's opening with.
 
He was just on TV. Heck I think he still is, guy can't stop running his mouth, I switched to the military channel after I heard all I could stand.
 
What is a military style weapon?

Our military has used revolvers, semi-auto pistols, M1 Garands, bolt actions, single shots, muzzle loaders.
 
But nothing about mental health?

I wish they would dig their heads out of the sand and stop blaming the tool for the users actions.
 
What is a military style weapon?

Our military has used revolvers, semi-auto pistols, M1 Garands, bolt actions, single shots, muzzle loaders.
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i have a feeling thats what they are counting on.....

But nothing about mental health?
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wait, you mean you actually expected them to address the real underlying issue?

mental health reform does nothing to further their agenda.
 
details on how it would be implemented or is this what will be sent to congress with the new term?
 
details on how it would be implemented or is this what will be sent to congress with the new term?
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It is his wishlist. The what and the how have yet to be determined with the SCOTUS and the Heller decision being the wildcard.
 
I really thought he'd sign an executive order to implement all these things. Who's gonna fight it? Very few in congress are gonna openly be pro gun right now
 
This nation elected him, knowing how anti-gun he is.

With any luck, the GOP-controlled HR will block all of this BS.
 
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Sounds like the VP is heading up a team that will recommend something ASAP without lengthy studies and reports. In other words they will ram some feel good legislation through that will make us all "feel" safer.
 
Two ways to look at it from an anti 2nd amendment perspective:

(1) *Something* has to be done, so let's more-or-less reinstitute the AWB (ignorant approach)

(2) Here is our chance to not only get some kind of federal anti-gun legislation passed, but we can get far more than we ever dreamed of... (deliberate approach).

Of course, the media fans the flames and basks in the glow, that is what they do, and of course, they are generally left to begin with.

Either way, I think this IS coming and SCOTUS might be able to curb some of it..after a long delay. I hope I'm wrong, but I think I'm right. Time will tell of course.
 
I am REALLY trying to bite off smug comments to those who kept saying that Obama doesn't want to ban guns.

Putting Biden in charge might actually be good for our side.

Don't panic yet. He has always WANTED to do this. Feinstein has introduced this bill MANY times. Just because they want to, and handful of members have flipped, doesn't mean they are anywhere near the votes they would need to do it. The fervor will never be higher than it is RIGHT NOW. They are mostly glad to have something other than the budget to talk about.
 
From the CNN story comes this little tidbit,
Bill Mingin's gun lay under the floorboards of his attic for 40 years, he said in an iReport.
"I thought I needed it 'just in case,'" the New Jersey man said.
But after the Newtown massacre, he thought of selling it -- but didn't want it ending up in "the hands of a bad person."
"So I smashed it with a sledge hammer, and threw it in the river. No one will ever be hurt with this deadly toy. Let's get rid of the guns. Let it start with mine."
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You destroy YOUR own property all you want - keep your hands off of mine.

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I really thought he'd sign an executive order to implement all these things. Who's gonna fight it? Very few in congress are gonna openly be pro gun right now
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I think that's still the agenda. He just wants the appearance that he attempted to do it through the proper proceedures before he blames the Republicans in the House for obstructing "progress". That way he can claim he is justified in using an Executive Order to hobble the 2nd AM.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-biden-to-create-new-policies-in-wake-school/

Obama and top administration officials suggest the response to the Newtown, Conn., mass murder could include a range of recommendations. But the focus, given the debate that has accelerated on Capitol Hill in recent days, is likely to be gun control.

The president said Wednesday that he chose Biden to lead the task force in part because of his role in crafting the 1994 assault-weapons ban. Obama spoke favorably of the ban, as well as proposals to strengthen background checks and ban high-capacity magazines. The president tried to walk a line between assuring Americans that gun rights would largely be protected, while making the case for some new restrictions.

"The fact is the vast majority of gun owners in America are responsible," he said. "But you know what -- I am also betting that the majority, the vast majority of responsible law-abiding gun owners would be some of the first to say we should keep the irresponsible law-breaking few from buying a weapon of war."

Obama said he would use "all the powers" of his office to prevent more tragedies. "We won't prevent them all, but that can't be an excuse not to try," he said.

Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that the administration will craft proposals for Congress to consider over the next few weeks. He said a "strong" Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is also important.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that Obama is "actively supportive" of Sen. Dianne Feinstein's, D-Calif., push to bring back an assault-weapons ban. He also said the president supports closing the so-called gun show loophole.

Lawmakers have floated a number of other proposals, including regulation of high-capacity clips, that the administration could also look at.
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Anti-Gun mainstream media + Anti-gun president - the second amendment = police state run by a dictator
 
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So how do these executive orders work? He says something is illegal and sends the storm troopers door to door taking your stuff. What a brilliant way to incite some nasty reprisals
 
Unless something changes, an EO cannot be done to simply ban guns. Executive Orders do not work like that. My question is how can the EO change already written laws... This is where all gun owners need to stand together, no matter race,creed religion, or political affiliation. I just ope we are strong enough.
 
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