Witch Hunt: Newspaper publishes Google Map of NY Gun Permit Owners

Hmmm...class action lawsuit(s)? There have been many incidents of this happening elsewhere. Memphis hangs in memory, for some reason.

Back in the 1990's when I lived in South Dakota they would publish the names and address of anyone who had passed their CWP test. So the burglar knows who owns a handgun I guess?
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I think the best way to thank this publisher would be to post his name, where he lives and his wifes name. Also the names of his children and where they go to school. If his wife works, where does she work and what times are his house empty. Does HE own a gun? If not he is not a threat to a BG. His home # and cell # would be nice too. Pictures of him, his wife and kids would be just great.

Then that SOB can see what its like to be on the receiving end of public exposure.

The entire purpose is to intimidate lawful firearm owners.


http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/

This is the most f-up thing i have seen yet. living on long island, i dont see a red dot on my town,not yet luckily. nys has a 6 month wait, with backround checks, letters of reference,why dont they make a map of all the convicted child molesters & rapists.no instead, its law abiding citizens who went through one of the most rigorous backround checks & charactor references & investigations in the country.why should that be publicly accessed records,that makes no sense. all these names are in the pistol section of the police dept?Now im pissed.....

I wrote the NRA awhile back when they first pulled a stunt like this. This one's the second, the first time they went to the county with Freedom of Information acts, got all the registered gun owners on a list and put it up in a searchable excel document with name's and street names (but they redacted the towns out of the goodness of their heart)

Reason they had back then? An apparent loophole in NYS gun laws that made firearms that were being passed down by deceased family members lost track of in the registration.

NRA pretty much told me nothing they could do about it because it's New York.

The comment section of the web page has gone to facebook status because of the debates people were having, where some "people" decided it only fair to post reporters, editor's etc personal information. Which they didn't much care for.

The "Paper" is unbelievably anti-gun, and it almost seems as if they make issues up just to justify doing things like this.

for the record, yes I'm a resident of that county

OilyPablo said:

You mean you can only get permits if you state a need or usage? What????

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In this county, the requirement for full carry is that you have to have “a special need for self-protection distinguishable from that of the general community or of persons engaged in the same profession”

Without the license of some form (target, hunting, premise, full carry, it's a graduated license system) you are not allowed to even go into a gun store and touch a pistol.

Twmaster said:

Anybody else notice there are no permit holders in Newtown?

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Newtown is in Connecticut. The list is supposed to be permit holders in the counties of Westchester and Rockland in New York State. What's making me scratch my head is that there are some dots there that are clearly in other NY counties, as well as in Connecticut. How can you hold a permit from one county when you live in another county or even another state?

There is a type of permit called "premises-only." Maybe these are the home addresses of people who have a premises-only permit for a business in Rockland or Westchester?

Some jackass did this with all New York permits a few years ago -- not a newspaper; just a guy with a website. Also no map; just a list of names and addresses. The data wasn't at all up-to-date: One of the listed individuals was Eleanor Roosevelt of Hyde Park, NY.

Sickening. They just put a "ROB ME NOW" sign on the heads of law-abiding innocents.

I'd wish violence on the people responsible for this, but it seems that's only for anti-gun people. Therefore... I hope the editor of this rag stubs his toe and it's awful.

We had a case down here in Flahrada (Florida for the Southern folk) where three kids broke in a State Trooper's home knowing full well there would be weapons inside. This is one of the reasons why I'm thankful we have some protection under the law for retired & active law enforcement.

There is the link to the story.

MilSurp Shooter said:

In this county, the requirement for full carry is that you have to have “a special need for self-protection distinguishable from that of the general community or of persons engaged in the same profession”

Without the license of some form (target, hunting, premise, full carry, it's a graduated license system) you are not allowed to even go into a gun store and touch a pistol.

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Not even sure where to start. The words "shall not be infringed" are on my forehead. This state law trumps fed law? Has it been challenged at all?

A Federal Appeals court upheld the NY CC laws. Some prediction it's headed for the Supreme Court.

SO much for --Don't ask/Dont' tell --with respect to CC firearms.:banghead: Yep public info on ALL POSSIBLE employees at those papers would be a good idea. But what paper would DARE publish this info?

The Plain Dealer in Ohio did something similar a few years ago. Now they are in financial trouble, I hope they go under.

I'm also for censorship of the news reporting. If they are against my 2nd amendment rights then I'm against their 1st amendment rights.

In Oregon, the Sheriff's office has refused to release the information. They were sued by the local media and the court ruled it was public information and the media was allowed access to it. The sherrif then sent all CC holders a new application form to sign with a box to check requesting that their personal information remain private. The court has not ruled on this, however the sheriff continues to deny the media requests for information. Yes, the Sheriff recognizes this could be a potential shopping list for the bad gun to steal firearms.

Why dont they post the names & addresses of everyone on prescription drugs,anti depressants,oxycodone while they are at it.....

So, I take it you guys don't like this particular flavor of the 1st Amendment?

Hacker15E said:

So, I take it you guys don't like this particular flavor of the 1st Amendment?

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The 1st amendment never covered harrassment, threats and intimidation.

sdhunter said:

What ever happened to common sense?

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It never was common, and what little there is left at any point in time is constantly eroded by media saturation.

Trent said:

Damn that's a lot of dots.

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But not enough, and irrationally fearful majorities are very good at stomping on unfairly demonized minorities--this has happened with great frequency throughout history, and of course continues today in many forms.

OilyPablo said:

The author and the people he cites act like it's some kind of completely scary thing. Oh my God my neighbors are exercising a right in the Constitution......

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That old thing?

Hacker15E said:

So, I take it you guys don't like this particular flavor of the 1st Amendment?

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Not when it works against liberty rather than for it.

This idiot bought himself a world of pain. Whoever is at the bottom of this will be held accountable. That's not a threat it's a fact. he made a mistake that just put peoples lives in danger.
I am sure that legally or even physically there are those who will act on this information. If because of his stuidity someone is killed, he will be an accesory to murder.
Also there are those who may have no sense of humor about such things. There are certain lines you just don't cross.I hope no one is hurt or killed because some jerk, decided to post this.
Forget about rights, there is right and wrong, this was obviouslly wrong.

This info is being passed around. Seems like only fair...

Journal News President: Janet Hasson, 3 Gate House Lane Mamaroneck, NY 10534 (914) 694.5204 Editors: Cyndee Royle, 1133 Westchester Ave., Suite N110, White Plains, NY 10604, 914-694-9300 Nancy Cutler 9 Woodwind Ln, Spring Valley, NY. (845) 354 3485 Parent company of The Journal News Gannett CEO Gracia C Martore 728 Springvale Rd Great Falls, VA 22066 (703) 759 5954 The reporter on the story is Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 (718) 527 0832.

I read yesterday............that this country is more divided now then during the Civil War.

New York newspaper faces backlash after publishing map of gun permit holders

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Well this isn't good. Looks like it shows criminals where they can steal guns and who's houses are un-protected and ripe for burglary.



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...lash-after-publishing-map-gun-permit-holders/

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New York newspaper faces backlash after publishing map of gun permit holders


Published December 25, 2012


A local New York newspaper is drawing the ire of its readers after publishing an interactive map that shows the names and addresses of thousands of residents who have handgun permits.

The newspaper obtained, and then published, the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties through a Freedom of Information Act request.

But readers swiftly condemned the move. They pointed out that the interactive map could make the gun owners a target, but also make clear to would-be robbers which homes do not contain a gun.
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xXxplosive said:

I read yesterday............that this country is more divided now then during the Civil War.

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I don't find this difficult to believe. I think the situation is more comparable to McCarthyism during the early years of the Cold War, though, except in reverse with the socialists in control.

I wonder if it occurred to them that many members of the local public that they peed on might also be subscribers and readers... hmmm. I wonder if a sudden, large drop in circulation would teach them anything?

Hmmm... naaah, probably not.