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The "greater issue at hand" that really baffles me is how much resistance you see when it is suggested that someone is doing something wrong. Whether it's spelling or terminology, the correction of errors should be embraced. The fact that it only serves to start an argument with name-calling is very indicative of a larger problem.

I'd rather be called elitist, spelling Nazi, anal-retentive, etc., etc., ad nauseum than ignorant or stupid. Not knowing any better makes you ignorant. Refusing to change ignorant behavior makes you stupid. You can easily fix ignorant but stupidity is terminal. I don't want to be either.
 
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Not sure why this thread was ever created. Good thing I call it "9millie" so people like the OP don't get confused.

The "greater issue at hand" that really baffles me is how much resistance you see when it is suggested that someone is doing something wrong. Whether it's spelling or terminology, the correction of errors should be embraced. The fact that it only serves to start an argument with name-calling is very indicative of a larger problem.
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Colloquialisms. It's all part of the human experience. Enjoy.
 
In most cases, people know if you refer to a magazine as a clip, they mean the same thing.
It is like saying a revolver is not a pistol. Some on here are beyond anal retentive to the point of willful ignorance.
 
Sharps-shooter said:
Context, as Apache said a long ways back. If you're out hunting grouse on the moors and someone is talking about their gun, it's safe to assume they don't mean a self-propelled howitzer. Similarly, if some old document references th clip for a Kalashnikov rifle, you can be pretty sure that they are referring to what most people nowadays call a magazine. And if someone says 9 mil to reference the size of a pistol, it isn't technically accurate, but you know what they mean. Probably.

And while we are at it, revolvers are a kind of pistol. Except the ones that are rifles or grenade launchers or cannon(s!)
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Exactly.
 
Anyone hear of common usage? If people commonly use terms or slang referring to something and you understand it, it is not wrong so you anal types should be in a lonely small group to bitch to each other because no one else cares.
 
d2wing said:
Anyone hear of common usage? If people commonly use terms or slang referring to something and you understand it, it is not wrong so you anal types should be in a lonely small group to bitch to each other because no one else cares.
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That doesn't make the term correct, but it does make it so that most people should let it go most of the time.

One of my peeves is: Don't let that spider bite you, it's poisonous.
 
You know, I'm trying to adopt an ''I don't care'' additude myself, but they are not...not the same thing. Having owned a Mauser Bolo pistol and an SKS I know the difference. I have heard of common usage, it's why no nothings call duct tape duck tape. At this point I realise I'm wasting my breath, but if you go back to post #9, you might learn something. Or, then again, maybe [probably] not.
 
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Even "Sgt Grit" the Marine Specialties Store run by a Marine for Marines lists this cigarette lighter as a "Rifle Clip."

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Doesn't bother me... both my uncles were WW II Marines (Iwo Jima, Saipan, Peleliu, and Okinawa) and they used the term "clip" freely to describe what the purists say can only be a magazine.

I'd like to be there when the terminology police try to correct either of them. ;)

Tinpig
 
thanks, R.W..... I remember when they started doing that. it's STILL wrong. someone linked to the picture of a duck on some duct tape too, and again, it's just proof of a general ''dumbing down'', due to accepting common usage as a definition. on Disney's film ''Bambi'', Bambi calls the skunk a ''flower'', but that doesn't make it one.
 
I ran through a whole Clip with this Gun and its not a 9mil
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You were the one in that picture?
Wow!

I saw that picture quite a while back.
Glad I finally got to "talk" to that guy.
 
Here's how I see it: For us who understand guns, when we hear "nine mil" or "clip" we know what it means. It's as simple as that. They aren't talking about your gran mammy, your kids, your looks or your income so you shouldn't be offended or trivial about such things.

I invite a cute girl to the range. The following occurs:

Her: "Oh...The clip in the nine mil is empty...Can you fill it back up for me...?"

Me: "Okay"

Her: "Yay!" :)

As opposed to:

Girl: "Oh...The clip in the 9 mil is empty...Can you fill it back up for me...?"

Dude: "Do not use the term '9mil' in reference to 9mm or 9x19mm. There is a measurement where the units are expression in mils nine of wich = .oo9 wich strikes me as a pretty ineffective handgun caliber if you ask me. IMO this ranks above the newbie calling a magazine a clip (I think is 100% vald BTW) because I see very knowledgeable folks doing this many times on TV no less."

Girl: "Um...Right" :rolleyes:

Am I doin it rite?
 
ChCx2744 said:
Here's how I see it: For us who understand guns, when we hear "nine mil" or "clip" we know what it means. It's as simple as that. They aren't talking about your gran mammy, your kids, your looks or your income so you shouldn't be offended or trivial about such things.

I invite a cute girl to the range. The following occurs:

Her: "Oh...The clip in the nine mil is empty...Can you fill it back up for me...?"

Me: "Okay"

Her: "Yay!" :)

As opposed to:

Girl: "Oh...The clip in the 9 mil is empty...Can you fill it back up for me...?"

Dude: "Do not use the term '9mil' in reference to 9mm or 9x19mm. There is a measurement where the units are expression in mils nine of wich = .oo9 wich strikes me as a pretty ineffective handgun caliber if you ask me. IMO this ranks above the newbie calling a magazine a clip (I think is 100% vald BTW) because I see very knowledgeable folks doing this many times on TV no less."

Girl: "Um...Right" :rolleyes:

Am I doin it rite?
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I would say: Yes, I can fill your magazine up with rounds of ammo

If you cannot educate people without being a butt about it then, no, you shouldn't try to educate them
 
Well, we're not all here to impress girls. I prefer the correct terms, but you can use whatever terms you like, to impress whoever you like.
 
When the lady in accounting comes to me demanding that I replace the batteries in her USB mouse, I know what she's talking about. Still doesn't make her look smart.
I'll correct a friend when he calls a magazine a clip, but I generally don't storm around bugging everyone about it.
Mostly it's an image thing. These days, it's ignorant reporters and/or gangsta thugs who use "clip" and generally knowledgeable people use "magazine".
Sure, there are exceptions, including company marketing folks who will have the word "clip" emblazoned on packaging, but I'll personally hang on to the standard I've accepted.
Sure, I think it was Mark Twain who defended "creative spelling", but that won't help the poor public school twerp who can't read his own resume. But, I digress....
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BHP FAN said:
You know, I'm trying to adopt an ''I don't care'' additude myself, but they are not...not the same thing. Having owned a Mauser Bolo pistol and an SKS I know the difference. I have heard of common usage, it's why no nothings call duct tape duck tape. At this point I realise I'm wasting my breath, but if you go back to post #9, you might learn something. Or, then again, maybe [probably] not.
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You dont have to be derogatory about it....

Maybe they were really talking about Duck Tape http://www.duckbrand.com/
 
Warp said:
I would say: Yes, I can fill your magazine up with rounds of ammo
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Where as I'd say, fill yer own damn clip or buy ammo


Or if I'm feeling particularly saucey, "ill fill something with something"

useless signiture
 
''My favorite part was when he said "no nothings"

PS: It's know...''

Thanks Warp, this is what happens when my fingers go faster than my brain. I know it's not ''no''...
 
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