Gun and ammo shortage, a glimpse

It won't stop with Feinsteins bills death. Plenty of states have their own new bills that need to be shut down.

It won't stop until every state has no more pending gun/ammo legislation.

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It won't stop until every state has no more pending gun/ammo legislation.

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If that was the case, we wouldn't have had any guns or ammo available in the last 15 years because there's always been legislation pending in some state.

Jorg said:

If that was the case, we wouldn't have had any guns or ammo available in the last 15 years because there's always been legislation pending in some state.

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True but right now we have many states pushing huge amounts of anti gun legislation.
CT has something around 91 gun related bills pending with over 20 introduced just last week.
Having a bill or two across the country won't cause a panic but after what happened in NY people are worried that their state is next.
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No kidding. I have been watching the circus with a wide grin.

NULLIFY...that is the word State legislators must learn...Many local law enforcement and Sheriffs across the country are saying they will refuse to enforce unConstitutional gun laws.

Every ammo retailer and a friend who works for Olin I've talked to said shortages will abate around March.

If somebody were to tell me he knows when the shortage will end, I'd ask him a few questions:

1) What level of supply are you saying actually constitutes a shortage, and over what range of cartridges?

2) What are the sources of your information?

3) What other economic trends have you correctly predicted of late?

4) Given your sagacity and clairvoyance, why aren't you wealthy?

It will only get worse day after day until this Feinstein Bill in Congress is put to naught.

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I've been using the price of a NIB Colt 6920 as a gauge, checking gunbroker every few days to see what they're going for. They have been up to the $3k range, but there's one ending in 4 minutes that's at $2425. By my unscientific, informal survey, it is getting better. Same with watching PMAGs on GB; going for $40 instead of $60. It's certainly not back to normal, but 300% over retail is less than 400% over retail, and is an indicator that things abating, at least for now.

Lesson to all, get what you can buy in better times and dont get caught in the frenzy.

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Yep. Noah built the ark before the flood.

My guess is it is going to abate some, but not go away. I'd say around March we will come down to where we were during the last shortage in 08. You can find it but its not going to be sitting around on shelves in great number. At least a year and probably a year and a half before things come back to normal.

I think a lot of the legislation at the state and federal is nothing more than political grandstanding. Still, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't work like hell to stamp it all out and send as many anti-gun politicians home as possible.

And besides, it's good to be part of the political process. Take pride in it.

As for when prices will come down and availability will return, who knows? And I am ok with that. My countrymen have bought practically every round of ammunition, self loading firearm, and standard capacity magazine that was available in just a few weeks. Any tyrant will now have to fear a billion or so more rounds in the hands of the people. Criminals will now need to worry about several AR-15 equipped homeowners on every block. For that, I will put up with a little inconvenience for a few months.

''Criminals will now need to worry about several AR-15 equipped homeowners on every block. For that, I will put up with a little inconvenience for a few months..''

Let's see the anti's explain the sudden drop in crime, LOL!

i hope you guys are right about the impending drop in crime

Criminals will now need to worry about several AR-15 equipped homeowners on every block. For that, I will put up with a little inconvenience for a few months.

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Until they are in the hands of criminals, since a ton of panic stricken people blew their wad on inflated prices and cannot afford appropriate means to securely them.

Tarosean - I'd have gladly kept things as they are, with people buying firearms and magazines at their leisure.
But our politicians didn't like that.
You tell Americans they can't do something... first they tell you where to stick it, then they go do exactly what you told them not to do.
Hence, shortages.

I have heard the March abatement also but determined tonight that I'm a (minor) part of the problem. I normally have about 400 rounds of 9 mm & took inventory tonight & I've got over 1,500 rounds. I realize that's "chump change' for many of you!

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of what it will become if some catastrophic event does happen. Guns and ammo , food , water, fuel and, what not, are gonna be in short supply when SHTF happens. It will only get worse day after day until this Feinstein Bill in Congress is put to naught. What a mess this has brought to all gunowners in general , but good profits for gun and ammo dealers. Lesson to all , get what you can buy in better times and dont get caught in the frenzy.

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you know some of us have been prepping for this 1999

Hello from Penna,
I guess everyone is aware that the Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show in Harrisburg was cancelled because the promoter, Reed Exhibitions, decreed that no Modern Sports Rifles (evil black rifles) would be allowed to be exhibited or sold at this years show. The show is considered by many to be the largest of its kind in the country. All I know is the vendors were pulling out as fast as they could and they say on the news the show normally does 44 million in sales over the 9 days it is open. Thats a lot of gun and ammo and other stuff being bought and sold. Tonite, the news reported that the gun stores that would have been selling at the show are now trying to figure out how to unload their unsold inventory. I wonder if all those empty shelves in the gun stores are miraculously going to be full again real soon. Maybe prices will come down too.

gossamer:
Maybe shortages will abate around March. Lots of people might also be turned off by the ludicrous ammo prices at gun shows. I had to leave our Germantown/Memphis show over two weeks ago to keep from laughing.

One question might be whether many peoples' tax return money will then be dumped on guns/ammo by March-May?

''Criminals will now need to worry about several AR-15 equipped homeowners on every block. For that, I will put up with a little inconvenience for a few months..''

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Except that right now, those AR-15 owners have no ammo for their guns!

I think it's going to take more than 6 months to recover. Another mass shooting anywhere in this country will complicate things even more.

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Except that right now, those AR-15 owners have no ammo for their guns!

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If I was a perp, I wouldn't gamble by guessing whether or not the gun was loaded or not.

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Except that right now, those AR-15 owners have no ammo for their guns!

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How many rounds does it take?

Most everyone I know that owns an AR has some kind of ammo stash going that they keep aside just in case.

This is just what was around my safe and handy (I'm so not digging in my closet to haul ammo out for a pic to prove a point on the interwebz).
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And I'm weak sauce compared to some guys I know. If you even have a few mags worth you can put up a decent fight. Most civilian vs. criminal shoot outs don't last for hundreds of rounds.

I'm thinking that calibers other than .223 will come back this spring. Even after we defeat the bans, the .223 demand will be crazy because of how many ARs have been sold.

Except that right now, those AR-15 owners have no ammo for their guns!

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At the last 3 local gun shows there was ammo available IF you were willing to pay market rate - around $1/rd - for it.