US Army Veteran Arrested in New York for possession of AR15 Magazines

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According to comment posted to correct that story:
...He was simply selling 5 empty magazines EMPHASIS on EMPTY, there was no weapon in the truck that uses said magazines nor ammo....
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bobdubois post #42:
From the NYS Police:
Q: What if I have a magazine that can contain more than ten rounds?
A: You can permanently modify the magazine so that it holds no more than ten rounds, responsibly discard it, or sell it to a dealer or an out of state purchaser by January 15, 2014.
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But if you transport the empty magazines to sell them, we'll bust you if we catch you. Welcome to the Catch-22 world of gun laws.
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timmy4 said:
As to the slippery slope argument, I don't buy it. Every proposed law in this country, regardless of the issues involved, should be considered on it's own individual merits, and not as part of some trend one way or the other. If a law makes sense, we should pass it, and if it doesn't make sense, we should not.
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That completely ignores political reality. NY legislators had already gotten away with strict gun laws and therefore felt safe passing even stricter ones. Washington works the same way. If our legislators get away with a magazine ban or UBC and aren't punished at the voting booth then they will believe it's safe to pass more restrictions such as turning the UBC into registration. IMHO many of our supposedly pro-2a legislators only support us because of our votes and money but otherwise have no strong personal beliefs on the matter or may even privately disagree with us. If they think for a second that they can get away with throwing us under the bus they will do it.

Surely someone has pointed out to you by now Diane Feinstein's "turn them all in" quote. This is their ultimate goal and I for one will not support any law that makes that goal easier to accomplish.


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What really happened.....Nathan Haddad was stopped on suspicion of drunk driving....then he took off and lead the police on a chase. After he was finally stopped again.....that is when the post ban (made after Sep 1994) mags were found. They were in plain view in the seat of the car.

This guy had been at Ft Drum for a while and knew the rules.

I hate NYS gunlaws, but they are what they are. You follow them or deal with the punishment.

Unfortunately....he is going to get slammed.
 
guntech59 said:
What really happened.....Nathan Haddad was stopped on suspicion of drunk driving....then he took off and lead the police on a chase. After he was finally stopped again.....that is when the post ban (made after Sep 1994) mags were found. They were in plain view in the seat of the car.

This guy had been at Ft Drum for a while and knew the rules.

I hate NYS gunlaws, but they are what they are. You follow them or deal with the punishment.

Unfortunately....he is going to get slammed.
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Can you site a source for this because this changes EVERYTHING!

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This sickens me. NY is becoming some sort of Judge Dreddish police state. You have no rights. Well you have the right to pay overly high taxes and overly high prices on goods. You do not have the right to a 32 oz Coca Cola! What a sad place to live. I can't believe anyone would live there who is a gun owner. You can't say this just happened, I didn't know. NYC has been taking away rights for a very long time. They will continue to do so until the people get rid of all the elected trash that is choking off the freedom of the fair and reasonable citizens of NYC. Start voting differently, period!
 
I wish I could. The local paper did not share this info. However....it was heard on the scanner by several folks that I know well enogh to believe them.
 
I hesitate to speculate, but the simplest answer is that he was in possession of GI mags, clearly stamped with their postban manufacture date.
 
I too am a "scanner listener" so I understand.

Thanks all the same!

Be Safe!

NosaM

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If that's the case, it changes everything.
Pre ban mags are readily available.
An absolutely moronic law that has never saved a single life, but at least it was easy to comply with.
Of course, now it's been replaced with an even more stupendously moronic law...
 
From what I have read and heard about the case, the Army JAG office has been informed. And they do not mess around when a soldier is arrested by a civilian over some stupid law. Especially if the soldier had the JAG office go ahead. This won't end well for NY.
 
Sounds like the police just wanted to take his personal property. Definately a case I would take to court. I hope he wins enough to set him and his up for life. NY should be ashamed of it's leadership.
 
Well, we seem to have the test case to challenge the new laws. The NRA-IL should jump on this to ride it thru the SC. There had to be a first and unfortunately for this guy, he volunteered.
 
There is an active fundraiser for Nathan Haddad. It's gone from $3,000ish to over $20,000 in the course of a couple days. Feel free to donate, or wait for more information to come out, if you feel something isn't adding up. The newest bit of information paints the situation in a new light, if it proves to be accurate.

In any case...

http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc#description
 
Ehtereon11B said:
From what I have read and heard about the case, the Army JAG office has been informed. And they do not mess around when a soldier is arrested by a civilian over some stupid law. Especially if the soldier had the JAG office go ahead. This won't end well for NY.
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Ummmm, he was medically discharged in 2010. JAG will do nothing.

This also has nothing to do with the new law.
 
Fastcast said:
Of course he was....Has he been charged with DWI or just the other crimes, after being stopped and likely harassed?
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Again, the local paper has not had anything about any charges except the charge of the "illegal" magazines. What I know, came over the scanner. Perhaps the other charges are not spectacular enough for the media.

Cop hater, huh?
 
guntech59 said:
Cop hater, huh?
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Hardly...As a matter of fact, my brother is a LEO

Lets be honest, after midnight it's just not at all uncommon to be pulled over for bogus reasons. I believe it's called fishing.

Naive, huh?
 
Fastcast said:
Hardly...As a matter of fact, my brother is a LEO

Lets be honest, after midnight it's just not at all uncommon to be pulled over for bogus reasons. I believe it's called fishing.

Naive, huh?
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What your brother does for a living has nothing to do with my question. You seemed to assume that the cops were doing something shady.
 
guntech59 said:
What your brother does for a living has nothing to do with my question. You seemed to assume that the cops were doing something shady.
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Sure it does, seeing as you accused me of being a cop hater. Some LEO's are corrupt, whether you believe it or not. Because I asked about a fishing expedition, I'm a "cop hater"? :rolleyes:
 
Fastcast....ridiculous discussion. Have a nice day.

Deltaboy....Haddad is no longer in the US Army. He was discharged, medically, in 2010. They will do notbing.
 
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