Gun Ban Needed To Prevent Ex-Cops /Military From Murdering People With Guns

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It seems to me that they are toying with the idea of disarming the most obvious threat in the event of a civil war.
 
Yup, he praises most of the progressive-minded politicians out there, but he also says he admires George Bush, Sr. He claims that he was able to get suppressors and I think he mentioned SBR's too.
 
Um, old guy did a damnable job in this old war
Guy by the Name of George Washington
Old Indian (as in French and Indian) Wars Vet....
 
jwh336 said:
This is why I don't like the "mental health" crap they're trying to put in the new gun laws. Far to broad of a term and ripe for abuse considering ObamaCare will be your health insurer. OCD? DENIED! :uhoh:

PTSD doesn't mean a person is or will become homicidal. They certainly are trying to put fear and paranoia into everyone aren't they. Whatever it takes to make the world how they want it.
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I agree. It will not be long till collecting guns will be a mental illiness. You have 10 revolvers???? Why are you hoarding????? Who are you afraid of??????
 
fanchisimo said:
Yeah, I read his manifesto. He says the LAPD is full of corruption but trusts the US government fully. Yeah, his anti-rant began at the end of page ten, I think. I find it contradictory that he is using arms in his efforts to fight a corrupt police department, but then says they should all be banned. That makes no sense.
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Well, he's an anti, and bald-faced contradictions and non sequiturs necessarily come with the territory whenever they attempt to use logic.
 
Manco said:
Why don't we ask the three people were just shot at (two hit, one seriously) by panicked, trigger-happy police officers in Torrance, CA?
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Here's a story about two of the victims involved in one of the two incidents:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

While the media isn't completely ignoring this, they are far from outraged and not that near giving a crap, for that matter. I guess it's OK as long as it's cops who are shooting innocent people they didn't bother to identify. I guess their lives are a small price to pay to help ensure the safety of more important people. :fire:
 
The NYPD shooting a while back wasn't a media firestorm either. The MSM seems to have a certain acceptance of collateral damage from law enforcement -- probably because the media is essentially a very simplistic storyteller and if the story has a criminal badguy and law enforcement good guys, extra body count just helps sell papers/airtime/etc. Despite 24 hours to work with, nuance is not something our media can manage.
 
If only we had all been born back before the Chinese discovered the formula for gunpowder. Imagine how peaceful it must have been to live before these horrible tools for murder and carnage were around. I bet Genghis Khan and Julius Caesar were real chummy with the guys; it was all jokes and smiles back then, from what I've read.
 
The last time I applied for V.A. benefits, the V.A. said my ex-wife gave me PTSD! I guess if you get a divorced your crazy also! Funny I thought it was the smart thing to do!
 
Remember the quip about the east coast professor who said "McGovern lost? I don't see how, every on I knew voted for him."

Mind set goes, "I'd be crazy to join the military."
Thus, "Anyone who voluntarily joins the military is crazy."
which is coupled to the inculcation through movies and media that "Every one in the military, is or becomes, some psycho-sociopathic mad-dog killer." (Even the cooks, baker, and clerks.)
So, all military people are just one flashback from ramboing entire towns--QED. (Or, more rightly, Quo erat absurdia demonstarum.)
 
So war hero's are all potential criminals and not to be trusted now
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That's part of a worldview that holds that everyone is a potential criminal, so the rights of everyone should be curtailed.

The scary part about veterans to people like the Canadian dweeb quoted by the OP is not really that some portion of us have PTSD, it's that some portion of us spent the last however many years learning very dangerous skills and then perfecting them in unpleasant parts of the globe.

PTSD in these kinds of conversations is really just a socially acceptable shorthand for people to declare "I'm a sheep, and it scares the hell out of me that my neighbor spent three years of his life in Iraq being a wolf." Vietnam vets got tarred with a similar brush for similar reasons deep down at the structural level of culture, however people dressed it up when they talked about it.
 
HorseSoldier said:
PTSD in these kinds of conversations is really just a socially acceptable shorthand for people to declare "I'm a sheep, and it scares the hell out of me that my neighbor spent three years of his life in Iraq being a wolf." Vietnam vets got tarred with a similar brush for similar reasons deep down at the structural level of culture, however people dressed it up when they talked about it.
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That, and that thanks to the two generations of veterans before us, it's no longer to just out and out yell 'baby killer' and throw blood on a veteran (mighty dangerous to do too..)

rather, the sheeple of the 60's and 70's have 'grown up' and now say 'they are crazy and need our help'

but the message is the same "veterans are dangerous"
 
THIS makes me crazy. Vets and retired LEOs should be awarded CCW's upon application [I'm old enough that I remember when they were, even some counties here in California] and ought to be our most trusted citizens.
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If they are no longer cops, then they should be subject to the same review process as everyone else.
 
Seems to me that all the Iraq and Afghanistan just got called "Baby Killer," just like some of our earlier vets. Seems that the Left is now abandoning the mantra "hate war, but we support the troops". The gloves are coming off.
 
sidheshooter said:
^^^This.
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And one more to grow on!

In an unrelated query, what have the poor wee folk done to incur your wrath sidhe shooter?
Banshees keeping you up at night? Leprechaun not forthcoming with the gold?
Pookies and kiulchies ... jokes gone to far I think.
A jest sir, only kidding!
 
jlbraun said:
Everyone has read the cop's manifesto, right?

Pro-gun control, pro-AWB, etc., etc...

http://pastebin.com/TAzPRfPy
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I believe we all, as logical thinking humans, have a point at which we will break. A point that will make us lose our core values and become the opposite of what we think we are. I know my breaking point, at least I think I do. I came to it once in my life. I know what situations would occur to make me lose my values.

Think to yourself what your breaking point is/would be. I do not condone this guys actions one iota, but it does make me think again about my own point of no return.
 
HorseSoldier said:
That's part of a worldview that holds that everyone is a potential criminal, so the rights of everyone should be curtailed.

The scary part about veterans to people like the Canadian dweeb quoted by the OP is not really that some portion of us have PTSD, it's that some portion of us spent the last however many years learning very dangerous skills and then perfecting them in unpleasant parts of the globe.

PTSD in these kinds of conversations is really just a socially acceptable shorthand for people to declare "I'm a sheep, and it scares the hell out of me that my neighbor spent three years of his life in Iraq being a wolf." Vietnam vets got tarred with a similar brush for similar reasons deep down at the structural level of culture, however people dressed it up when they talked about it.
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Could not agree more. Well said
 
Using cops and vets for reasoning behind any antis' rhetorical effluent, seems insulting enough, it gave me pause to realize there are truly ignorant, and blatantly stupid human beings around us.

The attacks are a tragedy. I hope this nut job gets what he deserves, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. I predict he will go down in a blaze, and remembered for the scum he has become.

I have many friends who have done multiple tours; it changed them in ways they hadn't anticipated, but they are grounded enough to keep those changes from affecting their social behaviors, from what I've witnessed. I respect them, and they know it. Maybe respect is the reassurance that many of them need?
 
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SoCalNoMore said:
I believe we all, as logical thinking humans, have a point at which we will break. A point that will make us lose our core values and become the opposite of what we think we are. I know my breaking point, at least I think I do. I came to it once in my life. I know what situations would occur to make me lose my values.
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Wait, what?

I think I followed you accurately here, but that can't be what you really meant.
 
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