.223 ammo

Actual going rate is under $500 per 1000 currently for the cheap stuff.

Just wait a few months. Components for reloading are sold out too.

$899/1000 around here for Lake City green tip. I don't see it going back to 40 cents/round any time soon, if ever.

I did see some for $292/400 which is like 75 cents/round.

Get the gun, figure out the ammo later. I reload it for about 22 cents a round.

Before the panic you could probably get brass cased $350 and up per case, cheap stuff $200 plus per case. Right now demand is higher so prices have mirrored that. Once this AWB, hi-cap, UBC, etc panic passes, prices will go back down... hopefully.

gibson_es said:

Looking to get my first AR with income taxes when it hits the account....and what fun it is to take money the government is sending me

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You realize they're simply returning your money that you lent them interest free, right?

$500 per K seems like a steal right now.

Up until the last wacko shot up the school it was going for $300-350/k. Fortunately, I have plenty of primers, powder,brass and bullets so I will try to ride this out. Who knows what the future holds. I kind of expect a large tax on ammo....just got a feeling,.

I've saw people have success at Walmart (even though they limit to 3 boxes per customer per day in most of their stores right now) and ammoman has some every now and then. Cabelas did have some online last week, I think it was around $350-400 for a 1000 but sold out in minutes.

It isn't just .223 or 9mm or the popular calibers that feed modern firearms. I just went to three online places and they are out of just about everything to include 44 magnum and mil-surp calibers like 7,65 Argentine.

Ammo of just about any kind has been sucked up and dealers sucked dry. Except the very pricey home defense brands that sell 20 to a box, nobody wants to plink or practice with those.

Unbelievable situation.

David E said:

You realize they're simply returning your money that you lent them interest free, right?

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While I sort of agree with this generalization, I think you can argue that there is a good chance that the OP is benefitting from the Earned Income Tax Credit. I'm no tax accountant, but my understanding of credits like this one (and it is a huge one!) is that you can only apply them at refund time (not weekly, as the money is withheld).

We could argue whether withholding is ethical to begin with, but that is for another site. In any case, if the OP has done his W4s well, the amount he lent them should be small. Then he gets a bonus (credit) at return time. Again, just my understanding.

Anywho, back to the original point, yes I like the idea of using a government tax credit to buy a personal defense weapon. Though, as others have mentioned, now is not a great time to buy.

Gordon said:

Actual going rate is under $500 per 1000 currently for the cheap stuff.

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uh...what?

Do you have links to these?

FYI
It's nearly impossible to even buy reloading components for .223 at this time. You're about 2 months too late on every account. With .223 brass going for over $200/K and bullets topping well over $100/K and primers vitually nonexistent, factory ammo @ $7-800/K is worthwhile. I'm not buying any at those prices so I'm just relating what I'm seeing on the internet auctions.

In early December XM 193 was selling for $300-$310/1000 locally. A few months ago, I paid $270ish for 1000 PMC Bronze 55 fmj ordering online.
I'm not convinced prices will ever go quite that low again, but in any event, this is not the time to be buying any unless you're desperate.
I'm currently seeing $250ish/500 around here now.

matrem said:

In early December XM 193 was selling for $300-$310/1000 locally. A few months ago, I paid $270ish for 1000 PMC Bronze 55 fmj ordering online.
I'm not convinced prices will ever go quite that low again, but in any event, this is not the time to be buying any unless you're desperate.
I'm currently seeing $250ish/500 around here now.

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When you say XM193 was selling for $300-$310 locally, I assume that is before tax? Is that actual Federal Lake City XM193 you are referring to? I don't recall anybody reporting prices that low anywhere near December.

Where did you get PMC Bronze online for $270? When?

Those prices sound more like wishful thinking or exaggeration of "good old days".

Where are you currently seeing $250/500? For what? Do they have websites? Accept orders?

I've looked high and low and talked to all kinds of people all over the country and I don't recall any prices/availability that match any of what you are quoting

Sportsmans Den in Shelby was selling(or at least advertising it) XM193 for 309 + tax/1000 late last fall.
Natchez Shooters Supply is where I purchased the 1000 PMC Bronze.
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The cheapest online link I can find for you is Hornady(not exactly the cheapest) for $299.99/500

www.vanceoutdoors.com

I traded in my AR when the NY SAFE act was passed. I sold 400 rounds of lake city 5.56 to the gun shop for $200, so $500/case seems like a steal. I bought 1000 rounds from ammoman for $199 during the Bush years - the good old days.

Academy Sports routinely ran .223 as well as 7.62x39 for $4.19 per box of 20 up through last summer. Every time it hit the ad I would buy 10-20 boxes of the .223. Walmart carried the Tula .223 for $4.99 a box every day so those were at $.25 + tax as late as the fall.
Now you can forget even finding the stuff. I was able to buy 1000 rounds from a private seller a couple of weeks ago at a great price but he bought 500k from an importer and was trying to recoup some of his cash. I have several 1000 rounds of .223 and will just not run through it as fast as normal. My main problem is .22 as we shoot it an awful lot and it is almost as scarce.

matrem said:

Sportsmans Den in Shelby was selling(or at least advertising it) XM193 for 309 + tax/1000 late last fall.
Natchez Shooters Supply is where I purchased the 1000 PMC Bronze.
EDIT to change 500 to 1000 & add:
The cheapest online link I can find for you is Hornady(not exactly the cheapest) for $299.99/500

www.vanceoutdoors.com

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That's more in line with the current market conditions.

And even then, I don't see it. Do you have a direct link to it?

Do you have a direct link to it?

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It's in their current flyer (prices good through Feb 28th.
Phone# 614-471-7000 or 740-928-3474

Warp said:

When you say XM193 was selling for $300-$310 locally, I assume that is before tax? Is that actual Federal Lake City XM193 you are referring to? I don't recall anybody reporting prices that low anywhere near December.

Where did you get PMC Bronze online for $270? When?

Those prices sound more like wishful thinking or exaggeration of "good old days".

Where are you currently seeing $250/500? For what? Do they have websites? Accept orders?

I've looked high and low and talked to all kinds of people all over the country and I don't recall any prices/availability that match any of what you are quoting

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I just picked up LC Green tip and tracer for $70 per 200 rounds 800 of which were sealed in the original LC cans with the tin LC seal on the can in November. You COULD still find some deals until now. They were in M249 SAW magazines linked. I picked up 1400 rounds.

ol' scratch said:

I just picked up LC Green tip and tracer for $70 per 200 rounds 800 of which were sealed in the original LC cans with the tin LC seal on the can in November. You COULD still find some deals until now. They were in M249 SAW magazines linked. I picked up 1400 rounds.

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I think half of the internet wants in on that deal.

That's a better price than the BEST price that was available in October

I think half of the internet wants in on that deal.

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Seems to me that somebody who should've known better?
Didn't stock up when they should have.

matrem said:

Seems to me that somebody who should've known better?
Didn't stock up when they should have.

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Not everybody can afford to stock up on EVERYTHING all at once. I am happy for you, that you can. That's good. But it doesn't apply to all of us.

Also, nobody could have predicted Newtown.

I've been making a daily trip to Academy to pick up my 1 box allotment of 5.56. For the most part they have had it in stock. All they had today was Winchester at $11.99 for a box of 20. Yes its bit high but its cheaper then what is selling elsewhere.

niho said:

oh, no? guns and ammo magazine was predicting this sort of shortage-outlawing, back before 1968. It was just a question of when, based upon what, Big Brother made his move. We've known, ever since Obama got elected the first time, that big troubles was in the offing if he got reelected. If you bought loaded ammo, in the past 4 years, instead of getting 3-5x as many shots (via reloading components) for the same expense, shame on you.

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I apologize for not doing everything the way you want me to.